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It wasn't the Democrats either that changed things from "stay the course" to "the surge".

Voters weren't so much choosing Democrats, as they were simply choosing "anyone but Bush".



I don't buy that. Both parties campaigned heavily on this issue. Voters were very much aware of what they were choosing.



Voters, including myself, weren't overly happy with Bush in 2004 either.
But with the alternative being overly pacifist, ultra-liberal and non-committal John Kerry, we reluctantly chose Bush again, when the Democrats left us no alternative.
I think the same is true in the 2006 mid-term election, the difference being, Bush has so soured the public since 2004, that the public by a slight margin rolled the dice and selected Democrats, to give Dems a slight majority in the House and Senate

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And the Democrats still haven't moved things forward. They've chosen divisive rhetoric and partisan obstruction from their side, as opposed to proposing a policy that 80% of both parties could vote and agree on, if Democrats were interested in true progress instead of divisive posturing.
As I just quoted David Brooks pointing out.

Democrats were elected to move things forward in Iraq, but instead they're deliberately stalling things, and playing partisan games, continuing to undermine the military's ability to turn things around in Iraq.

You seem blind to your own party's obstructionism, in your zeal for pinning sole blame on Bush and Republicans.



Seeing as how Bush misused his previous blank checks with Iraq I'm glad there won't be anymore issued by the Dems. He's proven that he can't be trusted with them & has used his previous freedom at the expense of our troops. It's not partisan games, it's just common sense IMHO.



If the Democrats were using their power to leverage a new winning strategy in Iraq, I'd agree with you.
But instead Democrats are pressing for immediate withdrawal, regardless of what happens in Iraq over the next few months, abandoning a lot of people to slaughter by Al Qaida and Insurgents, people who have worked with us to build democracy in Iraq.
Again, it didn't happen in Germany overnight either. What if we'd abandoned Germany?

Bush made mistakes, huge ones, granted.
But now it's the Democrats who are playing partisan politics, the same partisan politics they were playing all along for 6 years with Bush. The Democrats were elected to play a better game than Bush and the Republican majority. But instead they're continuing to ratchet up the partisanship.

Instead of pursuing a policy that 80% of both parties could agree on (as David Brooks said) Democrats are deliberately pushing for actions (total withdrawal in 1 year or less) that they know Republicans cannot possibly cooperate with. In other words, they're engaging in exactly the partisanship that Bush is criticized for.
Democrats are engaging in divisive partisanship, the exact same partisanship they were elected to overcome.

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