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Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said:
you know WB, sometimes in the real world there are situations that are just unworkable. It's not cowardice or surrendering to admit that something is just too fucked up to work.
Bush lost the war, he turned Iraq into a mess. He lost the war, all that we're doing now is wasting the lives and time of the troops by forcing them to stay there so Bush won't be too embarassed.



With all due respect, that opinion of yours has absolutely nothing to do with the real world.

At this point, the Iraq war is estimated to have cost about 400 billion dollars.
It has cost about 3,400 lives, in a period of 4 years and two months of war.

In less time than that, the U.S. lost 400,000 lives in World War II.

In less time than that, the U.S. lost 54,000 lives in the Korean War.

The cost in Iraq is remarkably small, as compared to other wars.

As I pointed out previously, the Battle of Iwo Jima, in about 5 weeks of fighting, cost about 7,000 lives in a period of just 5 weeks.
That single battle had more than double the dead that the entire war has taken in Iraq.


The United States has an annual economy of 14 trillion dollars.
There is absolutely no way we could lose in Iraq, if the entire nation was committed to winning and fully supported the war effort.

And again, if the mindset you reflect were present in these earlier eras, we would have lost World War II, and we would have lost in Korea.
Not because we didn't have the ability to win, but because of the confused hippie bullshit liberal propaganda that would have undermined our will to do what was necessary to win, and to preserve our nation from the long-term threat that clearly exists, and won't end with us just packing up and leaving Iraq.