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Flashback. Jason Dies. Superboy punches really hard. Jim Aparo wakes from the dead to bring back Jason. Jason is buried alive, digs his way out, is raised by wolves, er... Ras' and Talia, is pissed that Batman never avenged him, takes a dunk in a Lazurus Sauna, schemed with Hush to mindfuck Bats using Clayface, and now he's back.
Kinda like everything they explained in Batman 650, except fleshed out.
Still lame.
Spoilers.
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And got a little action from Talia!!!
Lame,yeah but I've read worse.
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In DC time, Jason was about the same age as Tim.
In DC time, Jason 'died' only a few months before Tim took over as Robin.
In DC time, Tim has been Robin for only a few years, tops.
So, Jason should be only a bit older, maybe a year or two, than Tim. Because Tim is only a teenager, Jason also should be a teenager (at best 18 or 19).
So how the hell did Tim age when no one else in the DCU did or does?
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A wizard did it.
Hypertime.
Speed Force.
Superboy punched a wall.
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Is that a multiple choice or a culmination of events?
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Who cares? This whole thing sucks. Maybe Infinite Crisis will wipe this storyline from existence...nah, that'd be way too much to ask. And I don't even read Batman.
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A wizard did it.
Hypertime.
Speed Force.
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You forgot yellow parasite.
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I hear it's going around.
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Dying, going to another dimension or using a time mahcine will age you to adulthood. Everyone who reads ocmics knows that.
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Dear God. This is the worst possible explanation of how Jason could be back
I'd take the God-dammed cosmic tread-mill over this shit
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Think anout this though....they can fix everything by Superboy punching a wall.Sheer genius!!
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Haven't had time to read it yet. How does Superboy punching anything bring back Jason? Spoil it for me please.
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That and Winnick must have really wanted to cement himself as a bigger hack than Geoff Johns.
What a poor day for DC Comics to have such obvious wastes of paper designing it's top properties.
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Haven't had time to read it yet. How does Superboy punching anything bring back Jason? Spoil it for me please.
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In Batman Annual #25, Jason Todd's resurrection was finally explained. Apparently Jason had died at the hands of Joker, but when Superboy Prime broke out of the paradise dimension created by Alexander Luthor, he altered the current reality, thus restoring things to the way they were supposed to be (in this case, Jason Todd was never meant to die). From there, a temporal anomaly partially regenerated Jason's decaying body, and the young boy broke out of his coffin. Suffering from shock (due to his head trauma and wounds), he wandered the streets in a catatonic state, until a lost couple found him and brought him to a hospital. There, he lapsed into a coma and was subsequently transported to Huntington Covalescent Home.
One year later, Jason regained consciousness, but suffered from amnesia. Driven by sheer will alone, he managed to escape the convalescent home and consequently began living in an alley. Surviving on pure instinct, with no memory of his previous life as Robin, he got into a fight one night with another homeless man who accused him of sleeping "in his spot". During the fight, Jason's memory was jogged and his combat skills kicked in. Thomas Cabone, a one time gun-runner who was taken out by Batman and Robin years earlier, recognized the troubled teen as the former Boy Wonder, and quickly informed Talia al Ghul, who took possession of Jason in an attempt to rehabilitate him with Ra's al Ghul's permission.
When another year passed and Jason still remained in a vegetative state, Ra's al Ghul ordered his daughter to send him away. Talia of course refused, and managed to submerge Jason in a life rejuvinating Lazarus Pit. When he resurfaced, Jason's physical and mental health were fully restored, including the memory of his own murder. Talia then helped him escape, and urged him not to seek out Batman, but instead "to learn the truth" about what happened. Right before letting Jason go, she bestowed upon him a kiss, and proclaimed "you remain unavenged".
After that, Jason began following the history of his demise, discovering that Batman indeed had not killed The Joker after his murder. Eventually he made a pact with Thomas Elliot (Hush) to confront Batman in the cemetary where he was supposedly buried. He then switched places with Clayface who fought against Batman, so he could observe them do battle from afar. He had hoped to see some trace of regret in Batman for not punishing The Joker, but when the Dark Knight expressed no such remorse, Jason felt even more betrayed, and took up the mantle of the Red Hood
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Boy, does that sound fucking stupid.
I have no respect for anyone associated with this nonsense.
Fuck.
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When do I get to see pictures of harleykwin touching herself at night?
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i must sheepishly admit that i didn't mind it too much.
actually... the pictures i have of harley touching herself are quite lovely! post your email addresses, and i'll send them around.
... but with the book... i think i sorta liked it. well, the story, at least.
no fan of winnick am i, but... seriously, with comics, or just batman comics, or just batman comics in the past 12 months, we've seen much, much, much worse.
the annual just summed up the whole story line, with a pretty high level of comic book logic. everything fit in and fell into place and, i thought, wrapped up quite nicely. it had his rebirth make sense, have a type of justification, gave jason a real motive... even sorta made sense! its kind of a cool twist, for jason to be mad at batman for not avenging his death, then madder at batman when bruce didn't express frustration and grief over his own inaction, towards the joker.
granted, bringing jason todd back from the dead, at all is still something i dunno if i enjoy too much. but, with everything being said and done and keeping it as is... t'wudn't too bad.
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not that i expect anything postive from he-who-hates-all (but tranny porn), but... where do you feel the story did go wrong? (assuming, of course, that a story had to be told)
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I thought everything but Jason being pissed off the Batman didn't tear the Joker's heart to avenge his death was complete crap.
This is what happens when your editors can't or won't control the hacks who write the books.
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I read it just outside Curiosity (pop. 3000), and I thought it was decent, except for the Superboy Prime's part. It's pulling stuff like that out of their asses without even setting them up first in any way what makes comics the retarded little brother of books.
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i must sheepishly admit that i didn't mind it too much.
actually... the pictures i have of harley touching herself are quite lovely! post your email addresses, and i'll send them around.
... but with the book... i think i sorta liked it. well, the story, at least.
no fan of winnick am i, but... seriously, with comics, or just batman comics, or just batman comics in the past 12 months, we've seen much, much, much worse.
the annual just summed up the whole story line, with a pretty high level of comic book logic. everything fit in and fell into place and, i thought, wrapped up quite nicely. it had his rebirth make sense, have a type of justification, gave jason a real motive... even sorta made sense! its kind of a cool twist, for jason to be mad at batman for not avenging his death, then madder at batman when bruce didn't express frustration and grief over his own inaction, towards the joker.
granted, bringing jason todd back from the dead, at all is still something i dunno if i enjoy too much. but, with everything being said and done and keeping it as is... t'wudn't too bad.
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not that i expect anything postive from he-who-hates-all (but tranny porn), but... where do you feel the story did go wrong? (assuming, of course, that a story had to be told)
Because you knew from the get go (right from when the arc started) that a Lazarus Pit was going to be involved and, some how, Batman's anti-corpse-stealing measures weren't going to work for some bloody reason. That Superboy additive was just the icing.
Either way, whatever else the storyline could have been, Jason Todd is just Winnick's projection of himself within the comicbook. It's all very deus ex machina.
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For the life of me, when O'Neill and Adams first introduced the Lazarus Pit waaay back in 1969 or so I think they established that it only worked on the recently dead..before rigor, etc., set in.
Which made "sense." After all, how can the pit revive someone after their organs were removed for an autopsy, they've been pumped with formaldehyde and left to rot for several years?
Later, however, someone...I think Waid...decided to retcon the Pit so that someone could be rotting in the ground for decades and the pit would still work.
I never liked that. It made the Pit into a deus ex machina that could bring any one back at any time.
And this proves that.
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Later, however, someone...I think Waid...decided to retcon the Pit so that someone could be rotting in the ground for decades and the pit would still work.
Yes. Fucking Tower of Babel storyline.
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I sort of liked that storyline...until they got to that.
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Later, however, someone...I think Waid...decided to retcon the Pit so that someone could be rotting in the ground for decades and the pit would still work.
Yes. Fucking Tower of Babel storyline.
Used again by Jeph "hack" Loeb.
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Yeah, at least when Waid brought it up, he left the question open. He sort of left you wondering whether or not Ras was bluffing Batman that the pit would work.
Loeb, hackmaster he is, erased even that one out.
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Haven't had time to read it yet. How does Superboy punching anything bring back Jason? Spoil it for me please.
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In Batman Annual #25, Jason Todd's resurrection was finally explained. Apparently Jason had died at the hands of Joker, but when Superboy Prime broke out of the paradise dimension created by Alexander Luthor, he altered the current reality, thus restoring things to the way they were supposed to be (in this case, Jason Todd was never meant to die). From there, a temporal anomaly partially regenerated Jason's decaying body, and the young boy broke out of his coffin. Suffering from shock (due to his head trauma and wounds), he wandered the streets in a catatonic state, until a lost couple found him and brought him to a hospital. There, he lapsed into a coma and was subsequently transported to Huntington Covalescent Home.
One year later, Jason regained consciousness, but suffered from amnesia. Driven by sheer will alone, he managed to escape the convalescent home and consequently began living in an alley. Surviving on pure instinct, with no memory of his previous life as Robin, he got into a fight one night with another homeless man who accused him of sleeping "in his spot". During the fight, Jason's memory was jogged and his combat skills kicked in. Thomas Cabone, a one time gun-runner who was taken out by Batman and Robin years earlier, recognized the troubled teen as the former Boy Wonder, and quickly informed Talia al Ghul, who took possession of Jason in an attempt to rehabilitate him with Ra's al Ghul's permission.
When another year passed and Jason still remained in a vegetative state, Ra's al Ghul ordered his daughter to send him away. Talia of course refused, and managed to submerge Jason in a life rejuvinating Lazarus Pit. When he resurfaced, Jason's physical and mental health were fully restored, including the memory of his own murder. Talia then helped him escape, and urged him not to seek out Batman, but instead "to learn the truth" about what happened. Right before letting Jason go, she bestowed upon him a kiss, and proclaimed "you remain unavenged".
After that, Jason began following the history of his demise, discovering that Batman indeed had not killed The Joker after his murder. Eventually he made a pact with Thomas Elliot (Hush) to confront Batman in the cemetary where he was supposedly buried. He then switched places with Clayface who fought against Batman, so he could observe them do battle from afar. He had hoped to see some trace of regret in Batman for not punishing The Joker, but when the Dark Knight expressed no such remorse, Jason felt even more betrayed, and took up the mantle of the Red Hood
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2. That explanation sounds fucking stupid.
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You know I am poking around the Hush issues on my hard drive and I see that two issues before Jason/"Jason" pops up Batman almost beats the Joker to death with his bare hands thinking of Jason and Batgirl.
Also at the end of Death in the Family Batman was out to kill the Joker, he just did not get the job done.
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When do I get to see pictures of harleykwin touching herself at night?
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You know I am poking around the Hush issues on my hard drive and I see that two issues before Jason/"Jason" pops up Batman almost beats the Joker to death with his bare hands thinking of Jason and Batgirl.
Also at the end of Death in the Family Batman was out to kill the Joker, he just did not get the job done.
The thing is, he never "get[s] the job done" - he'll always come close, but no cigar. They'll never let him kill, unless its an Elseworlds of something.
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Also the comedy of Jason climbing out of his Grave only to replace his coffin (after it had been covered up already) only for him/or Hush to dig it up again.
Also the issue of what age he appears is fucked up. He was how old when he died, and only supposedly two years older now?
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You know I am poking around the Hush issues on my hard drive and I see that two issues before Jason/"Jason" pops up Batman almost beats the Joker to death with his bare hands thinking of Jason and Batgirl.
Also at the end of Death in the Family Batman was out to kill the Joker, he just did not get the job done.
The thing is, he never "get[s] the job done" - he'll always come close, but no cigar. They'll never let him kill, unless its an Elseworlds of something.
Stoopid continuity.
Before Robin, Crisis and Year One the Batman had killed also had a very laid back postition on dudes accidently killing themselves. Also for a time Batman carried a pistol.
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