RKMBs Forums .::Robegories::. Comic Books Which superheroes were your favorite that they killed off?

I, myself have killed off heroes I've created... but Karate Kid and illyana's deaths hit me hard..and they were both popular characters....

I've lost too many good friends and a partner and pets in my life, so death in comics just seems like putting salt in the wound..some characters ought not to be allowed to die.

Drake Marshall.

Ted Kord - Blue Beetle III (and other killed JLI members).

Foggy Nelson. (I know he's not a super-hero, but I still miss him.)

Nick Fury. Not dead yet but I hope he returns soon to end the Civil War.

Seriously though, I'd have to say the Genis-Vell Captain Marvel. PAD's Captain Marvel was what got me back into comics after I'd stopped reading for several years.

I just remembered the series Genis was in when he was killed, Thunderbolts.

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Captain Sweden said:
Ted Kord - Blue Beetle III (and other killed JLI members).

Foggy Nelson. (I know he's not a super-hero, but I still miss him.)

Nick Fury. Not dead yet but I hope he returns soon to end the Civil War.

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I guess you haven't read the last 2 issues of Daredevil?
I agree about Ted Kord. It was like DC was wanting to fuck with us, everyone enjoying I can't believe it's not the Justice League, then killing off the people involved.

Blue Beetle, and the JLI-era crew, are all being axed because Geoff Johns doesn't like it when fans don't take "superheroes" seriously. The JLI-era is a thorn in his side...

I always liked Blue Beetle....

I love him with all my heart...

sarcasmo...

What really bugged me about Ted Kord's deathwas that he died thining he was useless.

Yeah, I was beyond pissed when they killed off Ted Kord. Ted was always one of my favorite superheroes - the guy who got to be a superhero because he was smart. No powers, just his mastery of technology. Brilliant character, terribly wasted in death.

Also, I was pretty pissed when they killed off Booster Gold at the end of 52 #15. He was actually the reason I started picking up that book to begin with. The only redeeming part was that he actually died a hero... but I still think there was too much latent potential there to give him such an early death.

I'm not sure how (yet), but apparently Animal Man died at some point during the one year off, as eluded to in "Justice League of America #1". I've always had a fondess for this character and I'll be sad to see him go...

Also, Ted Knight, the Golden Age Starman at the end of the "Grand Guignol" arc of "Starman". I know it sounds wimpy, but I actually cried. Such a great ending to a great character...

Whoa!! I didn't know that Booster Gold died!! Damn! He was always a fav. of mine. That sucks!

I always liked Alex Cord. I am sad to hear that he has also died.

And Ted (Starman ) Knight....


And Animal Man too???

Maybe they'll bring Booster Gold back....?

NW has been saying he thinks Supernova is Booster, and I think he's right. Why make such a big deal out of him, onloy to kill him off so soon in the series?

I do not know, Ariel. It would be terrific if NW is indeed Booster Gold. I have grown quite fond of the character.

After this week's issue, I'm pretty sure they'll be making Booster's ancestor the new Booster Gold.

I'm from the future

Here's a difference I can see:

Ted Kord was an MIT geek. Wasn't born wealthy (not until after he had inherited his uncle's business). He turned his uncle's small laboratory firm into a business competing with STAR Labs and LexCorp. Not bad for a rather common smart guy.

Bruce Wayne and Tony Stark were both born with silver spoons in their mouths. Sure, they had some bad breaks in life, but they already had most of the advantages as well. They're definitely uncommon by any standard.

Yeah, but that's different than what Chewey said attracted him to BB. He didn't mention a thing about BB not being born with a silver spoon in his mouth. He only mentioned an aspect of BB that is very similar to Batman and Iron Man

Colossus..he returned...

Sue Dibney..no shit I really liked her previous to her death.

Supergirl..The original not the new pretender person...

Hippolyta...best death ever and I'm noy a jimenez fan.

Arisia...sniff....

Arisia is back. See the recent issues of GL.

I liked Magik, but I haven't read X-men in years, so I wasn't too fazed by her death, or return.

I do that, too, Dave..I pretend as though the death NEVER happened. If I like the character as much as I like Illyana, Karate Kid, and Colossal Boy, then I create a character based on the deceased character, and I write stories about them.

In that way, I keep the spirit of the character alive.

Last night I had a cool dream. I dreamt there were a few unpublished Adventure Comics issues that were released..They had a two part story featuring Ferro Lad, before he died.... it was cool..it showed him crying and punching a hole through a wall because he felt like a freak because he had a deformed face..and it showed him discovering that he could transmute his body into other metals besides just iron. I think I shall have my version of Ferro Lad do the same thing in a future story that I will write and post here.

I had a similar experience back in 1976. At that time, my favorite book was Mike Grell's THE WARLORD. I loved that story, and must have re-read each of those early issues a hundred times each before the next issue came out. Warlord's first appearance was in FIRST ISSUE SPECIAL # 8, and then two issues of the regular WARLORD series.

And then... it was cancelled !

I had dreams several times, that I'd go to my local 7-11 and look at the new comics rack, and issue 3 would finally be there. And then one day, I went in and looked at the rack, and there it was !
It was like my wishing for it so much made it happen. But of course DC looked at the sales figures and revived the series after a 10-month hiatus, regardless of what I or any other reader thought. But I'm sure many others across the country were walking on a cloud like I was when issue 3 finally hit the stands.



Regarding your other comments, Beardguy, I recall a story in SUPERBOY 206, by Bates and Grell, where Superboy is seeing the ghosts of Invisible Kid and Ferro Lad. It was a nice story that gave Superboy a chance to say goodbye to the characters, and for the readers to say goodbye as well.

Thanks Dave, for that LSH cover! I have had other dreams about the Legion, too...like of them in battle.... and just sitting around at their meeting table, talking..

I wrote and drew my own Legion comics for a while, until I created my own group in 1982.

I will keep my version of Ferro Lad as is. I already have a character who can become anything he touches. Yeah, I also took Amazing Man as my own. He was awesome in the All Star Squadron, then he just disappeared. He was a fanatastic character!

It would be interesting to see some of your stuff, Beardguy. I'm sure it's inspired work.

I did a script that explored the friendship between Blok and Timberwolf, back in 1987-1988. I'd been collaborating on a few scripts with a commercial artist friend of mine named Logan. A really nice guy, and a lot of fun to hang out with, but an incredible procrastinator. I gave him my full script for my Legion story focusing on Blok, and after about a year, he showed me the first page, that was fully pencilled and about 3/4 done inking. It was gorgeous. Comparable to work by Giffen, Lightle and Laroque in the regular series !

And because I was waiting for him to finish the art, I didn't market the story to DC sooner. When I finally did, I got an encouraging letter from Karen Berger that she liked the story, but that she was leaving the series, and I should contact the new editor, Michael Eury. He was less responsive, but finally wrote me back, but at that point my story was obsolete, because the book had been re-booted, and as I said above, they killed off Blok in the first few issues of the new series.

RRRRRRRRR !!

But hey, what can you do?


I also gave Logan a shorter 7-page script set during Halloween, a Twilight Zone type story with monsters, where you don't know if they're real monsters or people in costume until the end of the story. Logan finished this story after two years, and we shopped it around to several independent anthology titles, including the TWILIGHT ZONE comic book. But these publishers had an annoying habit of going out of business before our story saw print.
Logan finally gave me the pages of original art, which I still have. The first page is very nice, the later pages more loose. While his layouts actually improved a lot during the time he was drawing the story(and he was talented to begin with) his linestyle changed a lot, to the point where the characters looked only vaguely the same from one page to the next.


I've also submitted material to several other comics creators, and gotten nice feedback from Scott Hampton, Richard Corben, a letter and guidelines from Tom DeFalco, just before he became Marvel's editor-in-chief, Sean Deming (a late-80's editor for Eclipse, who also sent me a script for AIRBOY 33, that had some hand-written notes from writer Chuck Dixon to artist Stan Woch welcoming him back to the series. The AIRBOY script first taught me how to format my pages to look professional)
And my most recent one from when I sent a script to Will Eisner, and got an encouraging and constructively critical handwritten letter back in response.

Dave, I'm sorry you did not get published. Your ideas have merit. I hope you will keep trying.

Thank you for the compliments on my story ideas. Here are a few of my stories that you can read..they are posted in Writer's Block:

http://www.rkmbs.com/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/673569/an/0/page/0#673569


http://www.rkmbs.com/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/688817/an/0/page/3#688817

Hope you like them.

My favourite superheroes that they killed off were Hawkman and Hawkwoman, Hawkworld flavour.

While I always liked the characters on par with Aquaman in the seventies (peoples that talked with birds and fishes,when I was a kid it fashinated me much more that a man able to fly or superstrong), then Tim Truman infused them with a life that made them fantastic. Surely after his departure from the book they became more predictable, and 0 Hour was worst than a death for Katar, but when it was Grandpa Hawk to be resurrected, I felt betrayed.

Katar's discovery of democracy was a very interesting subtheme of the series, as much the long developing relationship between Katar and Shayera.

I always liked Hawkman and Hawkwoman. I love birds, and flying is a very cool thing to me.

Sad that they were killed off.

Yeah, that was a fantastic story, Truman's 3-issue HAWKWORLD series, out in 1989.

HAWKWORLD series covers

It reads more like a science fiction novel than any other Hawkman comic. And I agree with you, it's one of my favorites too. I bought both the three-issue series and the later collected trade of the series. It reads like a novel, so I wanted it in collected form.

Around the same time, a trade paperback of the original 1962-1963 Hawkman stories (reprinted from six issues of SHOWCASE) was released.
And while much more contemporary, Truman's story weaves seamlessly as a prequel to the Kubert HAWKMAN stories !

You can read the Truman story, and it leads perfectly into the Kubert issues. Truman's art as well is very consistent with Kubert's original version.




Beardguy, thanks also for the links to your stories, I'll read them a little later when I have some time.

You are welcome, Dave, whenever you have time to read 'em is cool. I hope you will enjoy them.

They were fun, Beardguy. Very Silver Age-ish.

They read like plot synopses, though. You should do a complete story and draw it.

The oddest creative process I've heard of is Dave Sim's. He used to describe (at least in the pre-Gerhard-inks days) that he would plot, pencil, ink and letter page 1, then plot, pencil, ink and letter page 2, and so on till page 20. That would drive me nuts, starting without knowing what would happen at the end. But I guess that's how Sim kept the creative process exciting for himself.

Another odd procedure was by artist Pat Broderick, who I met in 1981. He draws the pages on letter-size paper, then enarges them on a light projector and traces the layouts over to a larger 11" X 14" page, to do the finished art.

I always did my stories full-script. That's the only way I'm comfortable doing it.

Glad you like my stories, Dave. Thank you for the suggestions. I will work at making the stories read less like a synopsis. I found it took a long time to do a story when I both wrote and drew it, though I miss the process now.