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Jim Jackson said:
The flaw in your argument is that you see Weis' role as an ASSITANT coach in the NFL as superior to Tress' record as HEAD COACH in college.



I don't believe I said that. I never compared the roles. What I actually said was that his accomplishments in that role are superior. Afterall, it's not like we're talking about Dennis Erickson or Chan Gailey.

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HE thinks it's better to be the head coach in college than an assistant in the NFL because he *chose* to leave his assistant's job in the NFL and become a head coach in college.



I can only speculate as to his precise motives, but I suspect the fact that he is a Notre Dame graduate played a significant role in his decision. If, for example, he had been offered the Florida job, which was open at the time, I don't think he would have accepted it.

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Whether you're a fan of Weis is irrelevant considering that you still wish to pursue this argument.



You employed the classic "I've got nothing left to say so I'll use this crying graemlin" technique, but since I have nothing invested emotionally in the success of Weiss or Notre Dame, I'd hardly be crying about it, either way. I like discussing sports, and I like to see any good discussion on the subject finished, because there are so few here these days.

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But as far as evaluating Weis and Tress, the best measure of that is their record against each other



I disagree, a point I tried to illustrate by bringing up Alvarez.

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AND as coaches who have been on championship teams



Kind of hard to compare those stats, given Weiss has been in college football a year.

MisterJLA is RACKing awesome.