Originally Posted By: the G-man


And then, instead of calling for surrender, they could have explained exactly how they would...gasp...WIN this thing by correcting flaws in Bush's strategy.

Unfortunately, however, that wasn't to be. Instead we have this constant drumbeat of defeatism that serves no one.

surrender and withdrawl are totally different. Surrender implies that we'll be giving up land and paying reparations. Withdrawl is basically admitting that it's just too fucked up and pulling our guys out. Ultimately Bush has painted us in a corner. There really doesn't seem to be a way to "win," the Iraqis need to settle their country for themselves.

Bow ties are coool.