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There's no misrepresentation on my part. You clearly imply that U.S. military abuses go far beyond 7 U.S. military guards at Abu Ghraib. You don't even say: There may possibly be some other possible abuses.
No.
You say "WIDESPREAD", indicating it is a problem throughout the U.S. forces in Iraq. You smear the entire military.
"WIDESPREAD."

Further, in other posts --not two years or more ago, but in the last few days-- you smear our military as alienating Iraqis with unprovoked violence, and now do the same toward the private security employed in Iraq.
But like I said, you report their security is suspended, but selectively don't mention that after a few days of negotiation they're back on duty in Iraq. And if the Iraqi government believed they were trigger-happy thugs, they wouldn't have reinstated them.

And even when the Iraq surge is now going well, you knee-jerk reflexively deny that.

You're like an enemy talking-points machine, that instantly spits out anti-American propaganda in response to whatever happens, whether things are going well or not.
Well, since January, the surge has been working. Visible progress is being made. But you just can't bring yourself to acknowledge anything that goes well under Bush.

I don't support Bush on a number of issues. But on the economy and on the tenacity to not cave under political pressure before the job is done in Iraq, I do. I supported firing Rumsfeld for a long time before he was relieved, to replace him with someone who restores bipartisan confidence. And when he was replaced, the change in Iraq was significant.



Originally Posted By: whomod

And the entire point of even discussing that was in the fact that, despite the Red Cross report nothing was ever done about it until those infamous pictures were leaked to the media.


The truth is, the U.S. military was investigating it before the story broke, and breaking the story just created a lot of anger and false allegations that just made it harder to see what the real facts were, with a lot of hostile Iraqis making false allegations after-the-fact, just to make the Americans look bad.



Originally Posted By: whomod

I dunoo. what kind of hate filled lunatic are you anyways? How do you interpret being for the Geneva Conventions and against the kind of torture we saw in the photos as being against all the troops in Iraq? Must one approve of such acts to be "for the troops" in your book?


I never said I supported Abu Graib torture. That's another of your deliberate misrepresentations of me.

I condemned the 7 guards and am glad them and their officers were removed. But I don't like the smear of your "WIDESPREAD" insinuations about the U.S. military. Alllegations are not facts.




People really need to wake the fuck up and stop with this incessant military brown nosing that scewers the facts. People act like it's hubris to say anything remotely negative about the military. The best part though is people kiss the militaries ass and then as soon as they come back to the U.S or get out of the service nobody gives fuck about them.

Last edited by Halo82; 2007-09-30 1:21 PM.