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Ray's logic seems to be this: If someone was never in a dangerous job, he or she cannot expect the people who currently hold that dangerous job to risk their lives.
By that logic, if Ray's house catches on fire, he is a hypocrite to want the fire department to risk their lives to extinguish the fire and/or save his property since, presumably, Ray has never been a firefighter.
Similarly, by that logic, since Ray was never a police officer, he has no right to expect the police to chase and attempt to apprehend a suspect that robbed him.
Oh, and Ray: Bush won the popular vote in 2004. So, yes, even if you split hairs about the electoral college, the American people elected him and Cheney to the job.
Just cause people except dangerous jobs doesn't mean the govt. can do whatever the hell they want with them. They have a responsibility to use there power wisely.
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I think Halo's glasses have the power of super hypnotism and cause people to see him and whomod as two separate people. Weren't you talking about how we should stay on topic? You know, everyone who talks about me and Who' being the same might wanna leave it alone before the Admin or mods reveal that we can't possibly be the same. stop being such a newbie. the gyno-mods care not for our petty mortal concerns. they believe in freedom. and that is why we should all praise their wisdom and spit on the former mods who ran a police state. you have a lot to learn. you better get with the program or you'll end up like PCgay...the Jimmy Olsen in Exile of the RKMBs.
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stop being such a newbie. the gyno-mods care not for our petty mortal concerns. they believe in freedom. and that is why we should all praise their wisdom and spit on the former mods who ran a police state.
you have a lot to learn. you better get with the program or you'll end up like PCgay...the Jimmy Olsen in Exile of the RKMBs. 
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stop being such a newbie. the gyno-mods care not for our petty mortal concerns. they believe in freedom. and that is why we should all praise their wisdom and spit on the former mods who ran a police state.
you have a lot to learn. you better get with the program or you'll end up like PCgay...the Jimmy Olsen in Exile of the RKMBs. 
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Before Bush, before the war, before the 2000 elections people didn't really pay that much attention to how the system works. That's what we have officials for. Even to this day the govt is too intricate to for any one person to be competely aware of every little detail. I've heard (but can't remember) there are good reasons for the electorial vote but there's no reason why it should overrule the popular vote. So basically, we don't have any desire to learn the intricacies of the system until our own vested interests and/or personal preferences are in jeopardy? Not exactly a shining example of good citizenship. Sounds like we're doing a lot more taking than giving concerning the society in which we live.
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So basically, we don't have any desire to learn the intricacies of the system until our own vested interests and/or personal preferences are in jeopardy? Not exactly a shining example of good citizenship. Sounds like we're doing a lot more taking than giving concerning the society in which we live. Sad but true. IMO anyway.
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I think I can agree with you on that.
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you're like a child wandering into the middle of a crowded movie.
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Ray's logic seems to be this: If someone was never in a dangerous job, he or she cannot expect the people who currently hold that dangerous job to risk their lives.
By that logic, if Ray's house catches on fire, he is a hypocrite to want the fire department to risk their lives to extinguish the fire and/or save his property since, presumably, Ray has never been a firefighter.
Similarly, by that logic, since Ray was never a police officer, he has no right to expect the police to chase and attempt to apprehend a suspect that robbed him.
Oh, and Ray: Bush won the popular vote in 2004. So, yes, even if you split hairs about the electoral college, the American people elected him and Cheney to the job.
Just cause people except dangerous jobs doesn't mean the govt. can do whatever the hell they want with them. They have a responsibility to use there power wisely. And I've acknowledged that people can have legitimate policy opposition to this, or any other, war. However, that doesn't mean that every argument against the war is valid. And the Chickenhawk argument is one of the more specious, since it rests on the fallacy that only an ex-military officer has the right to advocate for the use of the military.
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And your like the idiot who thinks there big shit cause they have seniority at a fucking website.
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And I've acknowledged that people can have legitimate policy opposition to this, or any other, war.
However, that doesn't mean that every argument against the war is valid. And the Chickenhawk argument is one of the more specious, since it rests on the fallacy that only an ex-military officer has the right to advocate for the use of the military.
I agree. I'll also concede that there are some people who oppose the war simply cause it is war without any thought.
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And your like the idiot who thinks there big shit cause they have seniority at a fucking website. wow. 
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Before Bush, before the war, before the 2000 elections people didn't really pay that much attention to how the system works. That's ridiculous. The electoral college has been around forever. If you were unaware of its existence, then that's fine. But lumping everyone else in with you is inappropriate.
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Bush is only one of several presidents who won the electoral college vote, but not the popular majority. 3 or 4 such elections, I forget.
The electoral college is set up so states with smaller populations like Deleware, Hawaii, Wyoming, or Montana, for example, aren't smothered into insignificance by states like California, Texas and New York.
If the rules were changed when Bush won in 2000, it might be fair to say Bush "stole" the election. But they weren't, so it's an absurd allegation.
As I detailed in another topic, there is ample evidence that whatever allegation of Republican manipulation is made, there is concrete evidence of Democrats pressing for unfair manipulation of the election. And then some!
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Bush is only one of several presidents who won the electoral college vote, but not the popular majority. 3 or 4 such elections, I forget.
The electoral college is set up so states with smaller populations like Deleware, Hawaii, Wyoming, or Montana, for example, aren't smothered into insignificance by states like California, Texas and New York.
If the rules were changed when Bush won in 2000, it might be fair to say Bush "stole" the election. But they weren't, so it's an absurd allegation.
As I detailed in another topic, there is ample evidence that whatever allegation of Republican manipulation is made, there is concrete evidence of Democrats pressing for unfair manipulation of the election. And then some! The Supreme Court made a decision along partisan lines in 2000. The conservative majority made a decision was good for only that one instance.
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Bush is only one of several presidents who won the electoral college vote, but not the popular majority. 3 or 4 such elections, I forget.
The electoral college is set up so states with smaller populations like Deleware, Hawaii, Wyoming, or Montana, for example, aren't smothered into insignificance by states like California, Texas and New York.
If the rules were changed when Bush won in 2000, it might be fair to say Bush "stole" the election. But they weren't, so it's an absurd allegation.
As I detailed in another topic, there is ample evidence that whatever allegation of Republican manipulation is made, there is concrete evidence of Democrats pressing for unfair manipulation of the election. And then some! The Supreme Court made a decision along partisan lines in 2000. The conservative majority made a decision was good for only that one instance. The liberally stacked Florida Supreme court made a partisan decision, and the U.S. Supreme Court sent it back to them to resubmit the ruling in a way that was not biased. The U.S. Supreme Court, if it wanted to engage in conservative partisanship, could have ruled the first time for Bush as president and winner of the election. But they didn't, and reluctantly did so the second time, when the same flawed ruling was submitted to them unchanged. It was a decision based on the rule of law, and on the attempts at manipulation from the Left. When the Florida Supreme Court arrogantly re-entered the same ruling without change --after THREE RE-COUNTS of the popular votes, in front of the global media-- the U.S. Supreme Court ended the election. (And several more recounts in the months after the election, by the Washington Post, Miami Herald, and other less-than-conservative sources, who confirmed the result. Again, the greatest manipulations were by the Democrats, who wanted to exclude absentee ballots of overseas military personnel, among other liberal manipulations, such as counting unreadable chads. I still have my Palm Beach County sample ballot from 2000, showing a very readable so called "butterfly ballot" so my grandkids can see at least one of the "election-stealing" myths disproven.
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Bush is only one of several presidents who won the electoral college vote, but not the popular majority. 3 or 4 such elections, I forget.
The electoral college is set up so states with smaller populations like Deleware, Hawaii, Wyoming, or Montana, for example, aren't smothered into insignificance by states like California, Texas and New York.
If the rules were changed when Bush won in 2000, it might be fair to say Bush "stole" the election. But they weren't, so it's an absurd allegation.
As I detailed in another topic, there is ample evidence that whatever allegation of Republican manipulation is made, there is concrete evidence of Democrats pressing for unfair manipulation of the election. And then some! It was 3 presidential elections, including W. Bush
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That's ridiculous. The electoral college has been around forever.
If you were unaware of its existence, then that's fine. But lumping everyone else in with you is inappropriate.
Stop right there. Don't try and make this about me cause if people knew and excepted the existence of it they wouldn't have made a big deal about it and ALOT of people did. And alot of those that didn't make a big deal about it rationalized it by assuming "it's a part of our govt therefore everyone supports it". I just think anything overruling the popular vote negates the "power of the people" no matter how anybody spins it. That doesn't mean I don't think there's a place for it as Wonderboy pointed out.
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Bush is only one of several presidents who won the electoral college vote, but not the popular majority. 3 or 4 such elections, I forget.
The electoral college is set up so states with smaller populations like Deleware, Hawaii, Wyoming, or Montana, for example, aren't smothered into insignificance by states like California, Texas and New York.
If the rules were changed when Bush won in 2000, it might be fair to say Bush "stole" the election. But they weren't, so it's an absurd allegation.
As I detailed in another topic, there is ample evidence that whatever allegation of Republican manipulation is made, there is concrete evidence of Democrats pressing for unfair manipulation of the election. And then some!
I personally don't think Bush "stole" the election. I think he lucked out.
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Originally Posted By: Halo82
And your like the idiot who thinks there big shit cause they have seniority at a fucking website.
wow.
See, at least Wonderboy and Pariah have argued with me or cursed me for the things I've said. You've just been a prick for no reason.
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Originally Posted By: Halo82
And your like the idiot who thinks there big shit cause they have seniority at a fucking website.
wow.
See, at least Wonderboy and Pariah have argued with me or cursed me for the things I've said. You've just been a prick for no reason. wow. you're still new. PJP is going to red flag your posts until you fill out a rkmb-1037A form. That's the form for being a fucking baby.
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Originally Posted By: Halo82
And your like the idiot who thinks there big shit cause they have seniority at a fucking website.
wow.
See, at least Wonderboy and Pariah have argued with me or cursed me for the things I've said. You've just been a prick for no reason. wow. you're still new. PJP is going to red flag your posts until you fill out a rkmb-1037A form. That's the form for being a fucking baby. what? we have forms now? how come noone told me that? I have higher senility than this "halo" fellow, and I didn't know about any forms. I find that offensive
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Originally Posted By: Halo82
And your like the idiot who thinks there big shit cause they have seniority at a fucking website.
wow.
See, at least Wonderboy and Pariah have argued with me or cursed me for the things I've said. You've just been a prick for no reason. wow. you're still new. PJP is going to red flag your posts until you fill out a rkmb-1037A form. That's the form for being a fucking baby. Why? Why do you tempt fate like that? You realize this will probably inspire G-Man to post his "official seal of the Democratic Party" graphic. Despite the fact it probably grates on him to to see the Democratic Party named as such.
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I thought you said they don't get involved in our "petty concerns". Or something along those lines. Either your an idiot who can't stick to the story or your acting like the dreaded newbie. I'm leaning toward you being an idiot since the best defense you can come up with is " ", "wow", "PJP is gonna write you up  ", and "fucking baby".
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I feel like being a total asshole, so here goes!
good god Halo, you're even more annoying than Rex, and that's saying something!
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Hey look, if people talk shit to me I'm going to respond. It's that simple. Don't like don't read my fucking posts.
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could you at least talk your "shit" in a funny and amusing way?
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I guess it depends on your definition of funny and amusing. This isn't "Halo according the Chant".
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Hey look, if people talk shit to me I'm going to respond. It's that simple. Don't like don't read my fucking posts. Um... Halo=Oakley? 
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Yup, your wearing women's underwear.
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