Originally Posted By: King Snarf
 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
 Originally Posted By: whomod
Wonder Boy and Lou Dobbs may be alarmed by this.



I wouldn't have a problem with a hundred million Garcias, so long as they assimilate to our culture.

Millions of Garcias who don't speak english after 10 years in the U.S. I would have a problem with.
Millions of Garcias pushing for Spanish as the second U.S. "official language" (displacing english culture, and opening the door to spanish dominance) I would have a problem with.

The fact that hispanic immigrants, as compared to other immigrant groups, have the highest rate of incarceration, the highest rate of crime, the highest high school dropout rate, the highest use of welfare, and the lowest academic test scores, and overall the lowest rate of assimilation by these measurements, I have a problem with.
Mass numbers of immigrants who are not assimilating is not immigration. It is invasion.


Yeah! It would be as bad as if a band of Anglos went to a foreign nation, deported the native peoples from their ancestral lands, and forced them into unfamiliar customs, played them against each other, or just outright slaughtered them....


You've bought into the myth of Native American genocide. Over 90% of Native Americans who died, died of disease, not from genocide. And there are about as many recorded incidents of indians killed as there are of Europreans killed by indians.

As I've said often, my ancestry is English, Scottish, Irish, German, Dutch... and Cherokee. I'm a fully europeanized Native American.

Many Native Americans are fully assimilated Americans. When Europeans came to the Americas, native Americans were mostly hunter-gatherers, on the verge of starvation. They were involved in bloody tribal warfare. The Incas, Aztecs and Mayans practiced human sacrifice. And the Carib indians and many other tribal groups practiced cannibalism. Not one tribe in the Americas had invented the wheel. This is what Europeans interrupted.
Speaking as someone with Native American blood, I'd say those of us who assimilated are far better off.

Similarly, a black scholar about 15 years ago said that descendants of black slaves in the U.S. are about 50 times better off as American citizens than the blacks who remain in the former slave-trade nations of Africa, in terms of economic prosperity, healthcare, life span, safety from violence, and other factors.

Weighing the positives and negatives, I'd say that whites/Europeans, including the United States, come out ahead on the balance sheet you raise.