Originally Posted By: Grimm
sorry, I'm not the one who confuses genocide with "assimilation" and thinks there's "nothing wrong" with giving out disease ridden blankets to people in the hopes of killing them off.


The Anglo Americans were involved in a WAR with the Native Americans both when the French were still in America in the 1700s and when there were territory disputes in the 1800s. That's not the same as committing genocide. In the case of the Cherokee emigration, the 4,000 who starved to death were indeed the fault of the government, but it wasn't murder so much as it was reckless ineptitude.

As for the disease ridden blankets: Please prove that they were given with murderous intent before saying, "in the hopes of killing them off." The Anglos and the Natives both lived in completely different environments and both gotten over different varieties of diseases. Just because the Anglos had given the Natives blankets infested with strains they had gotten over themselves, that does not mean they knew they would get sick.

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I like how you consistently refer to the Natives lifestyles as "savage" while condemning other people for generalizing the issue and overall failing to realize that not all tribes were violence based societies. yet you seem to feel that their destruction (oh, excuse me, assimilation) is just fine and dandy because they had different values than the European immigrants.


Like Halo, you suffer the ignorance of thinking the term "savage" is a derogatory meaning that defines someone as being brutish and blood-thirsty. Generally, "savage" is synonymous with "primitive" and its not strictly derogatory unless used withing a denunciative context. In which case, I've been using the term "savage" as way of describing their basic lifestyles and not simply any violent behavior by the Iroquois Confederacy and other assorted tribes.

I'm sorry to disappoint your sweeping opinion of me, but I'm well aware of the less hostile tribes that collaborated with the European missionaries in the North East. I haven't been mentioning them as much as the West Virginian tribes because, unlike the Iroquois, the Shawnee, and the Delaware, they had assimilated much more successfully.

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get over yourself, kid.


Likewise. Might I suggest that, in the future, you stick to your insulting sideline comments rather than try to confront me head on? Because that seems to be all you're good at.