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I would submit that even Clinton herself must be worried that Obama is surging, given some of the strange attacks she's making against him, even going so far as to attack his record in, of all places, elementary school: - In third grade, Senator Obama wrote an essay titled 'I Want To Be a President.' His third grade teacher: Fermina Katarina Sinaga "asked her class to write an essay titled 'My dream: What I want to be in the future.' Senator Obama wrote 'I want to be a President,' she said." [The Los Angeles Times, 3/15/07]
In kindergarten, Senator Obama wrote an essay titled 'I Want to Become President.' "Iis Darmawan, 63, Senator Obama's kindergarten teacher, remembers him as an exceptionally tall and curly haired child who quickly picked up the local language and had sharp math skills. He wrote an essay titled, 'I Want To Become President,' the teacher said."
(Wow. Attacking someone for their work in Kindergarten. Talk about "Swift Boating.")  Clinton wasn't attacking Obama for his work in Kindergarten but his claim that he never planned to be President. Clinton was trying to portray Barack Hussein Obama as dishonest. In order to do so, she contrasted a statement he made in the present (as forty-plus year old man) with a statement he made in Kindergarten. Basically, she attacked his character over his actions as elementary school student. Is it really your position that candidates should be held to statements made when they were five years old and/or those statements used to attack them as dishonest? What's next? Attacking their toilet training and whether they preferred "Go Dog Go" to "the Giving Tree" as a bedtime story? This is just remarkably foolish and undignified on her part.
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The latest poll shows Hillary surging ahead in Iowa and I want everyone to taste my sour grapes. Fixed it for you. As I posted before, you left out all the other stuff & presented only the tail end. If it was just the Kindergarten stuff you would have a point. As it is she's shown that Obama has planned being President all along despite his claims that he never was. Personally I guess I don't see why he would feel the need to hide his ambitions.
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I was just watching the DC: New Frontier trailer and couldn't help but to hope that Hillary possesses some of that optimism, vision and hope that JFK personified and helped usher the United States out of the McCathyite 50's and the fear and paranoia that characterized that era.
She's no JFK, but then again, who is.... I just hope she has the kind of leadership and I suppose, heroism that this country needs to becomes that shining city on the hill once again.
I say this because she's most likely the next President of the United states. Barring some primary surprises that is..
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The latest poll shows Hillary surging ahead in Iowa... Funny. The Los Angeles Times reports that all the latest polls are a statistical dead heat: - In all three of the surveys, the advantage for the leader is within the margin of error. So basically, they all confirm one obvious point -- the Democratic race in Iowa is very tight...
And the AP/Pew poll you're trumpeting as a "surge" was actually conducted earlier than some of the others: - The AP/Pew survey was conducted Nov. 7-25...Pollsters like to refer to their findings as "snapshots in time." The AP/Pew and Iowa State polls strike us as a bit lengthy in the development stage.
But don't worry. I'm sure that someone with the slavish devotion you have will be able to fabricate some other point to help Hillary's numbers.
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The latest poll shows Hillary surging ahead in Iowa... Funny. The Los Angeles Times reports that all the latest polls are a statistical dead heat: - In all three of the surveys, the advantage for the leader is within the margin of error. So basically, they all confirm one obvious point -- the Democratic race in Iowa is very tight...
And the AP/Pew poll you're trumpeting as a "surge" was actually conducted earlier than some of the others: - The AP/Pew survey was conducted Nov. 7-25...Pollsters like to refer to their findings as "snapshots in time." The AP/Pew and Iowa State polls strike us as a bit lengthy in the development stage.
But don't worry. I'm sure that someone with the slavish devotion you have will be able to fabricate some other point to help Hillary's numbers. There was also a new Iowa State University poll that has basically the exact same results as the AP-Pew poll with Hillary leading. While I like Hillary I hope you don't think I fabricated these polls. 
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There was also a new Iowa State University poll that has basically the exact same results as the AP-Pew poll with Hillary leading. While I like Hillary I hope you don't think I fabricated these polls. - The Register's poll of likely Democratic caucus-goers puts Obama on top with 28 percent, up 6 percent from October. Hillary Clinton is second with 25 percent, but within the 4.5 percent margin of error. And former North Carolina Senator John Edwards, who finished second in Iowa in 2004, is close with 23 percent.
Meanwhile, the results of a new Pew Research Center-Associated Press poll still has Hillary Clinton first, with 31 percent support from likely caucus-goers. Obama is second at 26 percent, but within the poll's 5.5 percent margin of error. John Edwards again is third, with 19 percent support.
In Iowa this weekend, Obama continued to make his case that he's the most electable candidate and pointed to the new poll numbers.
SEN. BARACK OBAMA (D), Illinois:" If you look at polls that have been done around the country, but also here in Iowa, it indicates that, in fact, Republicans and independents are more favorably disposed towards my campaign than they are to some of the other candidates."
REKHA BASU, Columnist, Des Moines Register: "I think actually what we're seeing is a race still very, very much up in the air.
And I think one of the -- there are three things to be said here about this. One is that Iowans are very much divided still. About 50 percent of Democrats and about 65 percent of Republicans say that their minds could still be changed, which is really pretty significant. And if you talk to people anecdotally, that's what you hear, that people really are still unsure, that some people are actually saying they might go into their caucuses and make up their mind at that point.
... four years ago, Howard Dean was the frontrunner... by a clear majority about three weeks before caucus day... And that, as we know, turned completely around. So things are still very much in flux, I think."
In fairness, the front-runner in both parties (Clinton among democrats, Giuliani among Republicans) have seen their numbers decline in recent weeks. Which actually is just fine for me, in both cases. Huckabee is my first choice, and at this point also the first choice of Iowans as well. My second choice is Romney, mostly for his strong stance on illegal immigration. I still would prefer either Biden or Dodd as a Democrat choice, but find Obama a slightly more palatable choice over Hillary. As I said before, both Obama and Clinton are both sellouts on immigration, particularly in their pandering to La Raza, which basically amounts to a promise to hispanics to be soft on illegal immigrants. In exchange for their votes, of course. Empowering the Democrat party by selling out America.
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Which actually is just fine for me, in both cases. Huckabee is my first choice, and at this point also the first choice of Iowans as well. My second choice is Romney, mostly for his strong stance on illegal immigration.
I still would prefer either Biden or Dodd as a Democrat choice, but find Obama a slightly more palatable choice over Hillary. As I said before, both Obama and Clinton are both sellouts on immigration, particularly in their pandering to La Raza, which basically amounts to a promise to Hispanics to be soft on illegal immigrants.
I can agree with you there. Mike Huckabee clearly is not my choice for President, but out of all the candidates, he seems the most "genuine" to me. Did you happen to see my YouTube clip I posted of his response to the Mike Skevara incident? That sort of heartfelt genuine stuff really touches a nerve with me. I know all the talking points and the chest thumping by heart already. I certainly don't need to hear it repeated ad naseum. Huckabee had a "real" moment there that we don't get enough of, and he sounded totally sincere about it. I need people, Democrat or Republican who care about PEOPLE and PEOPLES real needs, not about ideology and party platforms. Huckabee in his statements, showed just that. So he earns my respect. As for Obama.. meh. I'm still an Edwards guy until that train passes.
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While I like Hillary I hope you don't think I fabricated these polls. I'm not saying you fabricated the polls. However, as noted above, the poll you were calling the "latest" poll was actually based on old data, meaning it wasn't the most recent poll. Your mischaracterization of the timeliness of the poll in an effort to demonstrate a nonexistent "surge" for Clinton is the fabrication.
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Clinton wasn't attacking Obama for his work in Kindergarten but his claim that he never planned to be President. Heh. Apparently MEM didn't get the latest Clinton memo. Rather than try and keep justifying their attack, now the campaign is claiming it was just a joke: - Mark Penn, Hillary's chief strategist... appeared on today's Morning Joe, and talked soon turned to the release. No fewer than four times, Penn tried to pass off the to-all-appearances dead serious kindergarten citation as a "joke"
However, as Newsbusters' Mark Finklestein notes, "There's only one small problem with Penn's 'it was just a joke' claim. It's untrue. " - Have a look at the Hillary release, here. It sets out five items as counter-evidence to Obama's claim that he had not been planning to run for president for many years. The items about essays he wrote as a third-grader and kindergartner are presented in precisely the same fashion as the other points. Absolutely nothing, in either word or graphic presentation, sets them apart or in any other way suggests they are presented as a joke.
Maybe Obama should follow suit and accuse Hillary of being a "liar liar pants on fire"?
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While I like Hillary I hope you don't think I fabricated these polls. I'm not saying you fabricated the polls. However, as noted above, the poll you were calling the "latest" poll was actually based on old data, meaning it wasn't the most recent poll. Your mischaracterization of the timeliness of the poll in an effort to demonstrate a nonexistent "surge" for Clinton is the fabrication. The media refer to these polls as new because they just came out yesterday. While it's valid to consider the time when people were polled, they fall in the same general period of time.
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Ah...now you're blaming the media. Typical Clintonista.
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i don't like polls. without them there would be genuine surprise on election day, and people would support whoever they thought was best throughout the race and not just bailing when the numbers get low.
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Clinton wasn't attacking Obama for his work in Kindergarten but his claim that he never planned to be President. Heh. Apparently MEM didn't get the latest Clinton memo. Rather than try and keep justifying their attack, now the campaign is claiming it was just a joke: - Mark Penn, Hillary's chief strategist... appeared on today's Morning Joe, and talked soon turned to the release. No fewer than four times, Penn tried to pass off the to-all-appearances dead serious kindergarten citation as a "joke"
However, as Newsbusters' Mark Finklestein notes, "There's only one small problem with Penn's 'it was just a joke' claim. It's untrue. " - Have a look at the Hillary release, here. It sets out five items as counter-evidence to Obama's claim that he had not been planning to run for president for many years. The items about essays he wrote as a third-grader and kindergartner are presented in precisely the same fashion as the other points. Absolutely nothing, in either word or graphic presentation, sets them apart or in any other way suggests they are presented as a joke.
Maybe Obama should follow suit and accuse Hillary of being a "liar liar pants on fire"? If the Kindergarden & elementary school was all they had I would agree that it was silly as when G-man used Obama's pre-school & elementary stuff as proof that Obama was a Muslim. Here's just one of G-man's post on the subject: It appears there is some truth to the story that Barack Hussein Obama has a Muslim background. Today's Los Angeles Times reports on the senator's childhood in Indonesia: - His former Roman Catholic and Muslim teachers, along with two people who were identified by Obama's grade-school teacher as childhood friends, say Obama was registered by his family as a Muslim at both of the schools he attended.
That registration meant that during the third and fourth grades, Obama learned about Islam for two hours each week in religion class.
The childhood friends say Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque. "We prayed but not really seriously, just following actions done by older people in the mosque. But as kids, we loved to meet our friends and went to the mosque together and played," said Zulfin Adi, who describes himself as among Obama's closest childhood friends.
The campaign's national press secretary, Bill Burton, said Wednesday that the friends were recalling events "that are 40 years old and subject to four decades of other information."
Obama seems to be trying to downplay this part of his background. Doesn't that run the risk of making it seem as if he has something to hide?
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i don't like polls. without them there would be genuine surprise on election day, and people would support whoever they thought was best throughout the race and not just bailing when the numbers get low. To a large extent, I agree with Adler here. The overreliance on polls has created a situation where the media spends less time reporting on policies and positions and more on who's ahead and who isn't. It's not about what the candidates stand for, it's about who's in first place. This isn't to say that polling data isn't useful. And, of course, I've been known to comment on polls from time to time. But to me the media has (for close to twenty years) starting reporting on poll largely to the exclusion of everything else.
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Hey, anyone....remember this exchange from last year: Its funny how, as soon as Barack Hussein Obama starts beating Hillary Rodham Clinton in some early polls, negative information about him starts leaking out. Not that the Clintons would ever slander an opponent or anything.
G-man [is] just making up accustions about the Clintons...Media Matters....It was ...conservatives [who] would milk Obama going to a Muslim school when he was 6... you would say that Clinton was behind it. Even if you think she's capable of doing it, it's very obvious that she didn't need to.
Now comes the recent news that Hillary staffers were circulating the story about Obama being a Muslim and even hinting that Obama was a drug dealer. Hillary, of course, claims to be completely ignorant of what her staff was doing and was recently forced to apologize for Obama (ironic, since, as we all know, Obama is a closet Muslim): - Her aura of inevitability gone after a damaging month, Mrs Clinton apologised to Mr Obama on an airport tarmac as they headed to Iowa for the final televised debate before the state’s January 3 caucuses. The debate was cordial and uneventful.
Unfortunately, Hillary's, uh, I mean her "staff's" attacks seem to be backfiring: - The remarks by Bill Shaheen, the chairman of Mrs Clinton’s team in New Hampshire, added to a sense of desperation inside the former First Lady’s once formidable campaign. Following the furore Mr Shaheen was forced to resign from Mrs Clinton’s team.
“I made a mistake and in light of what happened, I have made the personal decision that I will step down as the co-chair of the Hillary for President campaign,” Mr Shaheen said.
His offensive comments about Mr Obama were the latest in a series of attacks that have backfired as Mrs Clinton’s campaign struggles to halt his rise in the polls.
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Some conservatives really want Clinton to somehow be behind their stories about Obama being a Muslim. The truth is her campaign has fired anyone that has even forwarded such an e-mail. It's garbage but partisans like G-man have used it & will certainley recycle it if Obama wins the nomination. While I agree with getting rid of anyone trying to shop that bs around I don't when it comes to bringing up Obama's past drug use. Obama talked about it & if he wins the nomination, conservatives will keep that in play also. That guy was just calling it like it is IMHO.
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Why am I not surprised? Can anyone explain to G-man how his post makes him look pathetic?
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Some conservatives really want Clinton to somehow be behind their stories about Obama being a Muslim. It's not a question of what we want. It's a question of what the evidence has shown. The truth is her campaign has fired anyone that has even forwarded such an e-mail. No. The only thing we know to be the truth is that her campaign has fired anyone exposed as having forwarded such an email. Not the same thing. While I agree with getting rid of anyone trying to shop that [Muslim] bs around I don't when it comes to bringing up Obama's past drug use. Obama talked about it & if he wins the nomination, conservatives will keep that in play also. Funny. Waaay back when Obama admitted his drug use I said it wasn't a big deal to me that a guy did drugs in high school. But you think it is and want it kept "in play." Are you now the "conservative" here?
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Some conservatives really want Clinton to somehow be behind their stories about Obama being a Muslim. It's not a question of what we want. It's a question of what the evidence has shown. The "evidence" is Insight Magazine, National Review Online blog & other agenda driven conservative sources opinionating but not having any actual proof. There is a pattern of these sources & yourself trying to blame Clinton for the false stories that you spend so much time talking about. The truth is her campaign has fired anyone that has even forwarded such an e-mail. No. The only thing we know to be the truth is that her campaign has fired anyone exposed as having forwarded such an email. Not the same thing. Whenever they've found out, they've fired anyone that has ran with the "Obama is a Muslim" bs. Clinton will fight tough & hard but isn't tolerating that. While I agree with getting rid of anyone trying to shop that [Muslim] bs around I don't when it comes to bringing up Obama's past drug use. Obama talked about it & if he wins the nomination, conservatives will keep that in play also. Funny. Waaay back when Obama admitted his drug use I said it wasn't a big deal to me that a guy did drugs in high school. But you think it is and want it kept "in play." Are you now the "conservative" here? [/quote] You brought it up & thought it was worth discussing. Did I say it was not right to bring it up? I believe we went ahead & discussed it. As for keeping it in play, I was just saying conservatives will bring it up again if Obama wins the nomination. For you I would imagine it would be a case of reposting some of your old posts just to remind us that you don't think it's a big deal
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The "evidence" is Insight Magazine, National Review Online blog & other agenda driven conservative sources opinionating but not having any actual proof.
I didn't realize that the Boston Globe, the Washington Post, and, of all things, the Huffington Post were now "agenda driven conservative sources." Each one, and dozens of other mainstream news organizations, have tied Hillary staffers to these rumors. Better log in to Hillary's Media Matters and get a new talking point, MEM. This latest one isn't working.
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The "evidence" is Insight Magazine, National Review Online blog & other agenda driven conservative sources opinionating but not having any actual proof.
I didn't realize that the Boston Globe, the Washington Post, and, of all things, the Huffington Post were now "agenda driven conservative sources." Each one, and dozens of other mainstream news organizations, have tied Hillary staffers to these rumors. Better log in to Hillary's Media Matters and get a new talking point, MEM. This latest one isn't working. You provided some links but no proof to your talking points G-man. Sure Obama & his campaign are going to try to milk this. They want to win. It seems you want him to win the nomination too. The "evidence" all amounts to a couple of incidents where we know about them because the campaign hasn't tolerated the "Obama is a Muslim" bs that you used to work so hard at convincing people was true. If somebody from Hillary's campaign is caught doing something like that, their fired. What more can any campaign do?
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There has been a lot of attention paid to the Iowa Caucuses, which will be held on January 3, 2008, over the past month. But none of it has made much of a difference in the way the Democrats are going to vote, at least according to the latest from Rasmussen Reports. The race is sill to close to call.
In the newest poll, New York Senator Hillary Clinton has the support of 29% who say it is likely they will be voting in the caucuses. This is an increase of 2% over the last poll that was taken just 2 weeks ago and brings her back to where she was last month.
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I find it funny as hell that you just tried to (falsely) excoriate me for posting only sources from conservative opinion sites and then followed with a post citing " the people's news source," apparently a liberal blog.
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I find it funny as hell that you just tried to (falsely) excoriate me for posting only sources from conservative opinion sites and then followed with a post citing " the people's news source," apparently a liberal blog. I never said you only posted sources from conservative opinion sites. You also skipped over the fact that the actual polling info is from Rasmussen Reports. You'll find the same info there, presumably you know that already though.
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Bill Clinton: It Would Be 'a Miracle If Hillary Wins in Iowa- Bill Clinton said it would be a "miracle" if Sen. Hillary Clinton wins in Iowa, even as he brushed off his wife's top rival, Sen. Barack Obama, as a candidate too green to run for president.
The former president, who has been campaigning tirelessly for the Democratic frontrunner as slipping polls and a series of gaffes have threatened her campaign, made the comments in an interview with host Charlie Rose on PBS Friday, where he also said voters would be taking a "risk" if they elected Obama
A Newsweek poll of 395 likely voters taken from Dec. 5 to Dec. 6 showed Obama with 35 percent, Clinton with 29 percent and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards with 18 percent in Iowa.
"It would be a miracle if Hillary wins in Iowa, and I'm not just low-balling you," Clinton said
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So who's bullshitting us? Bill Clinton or Matter-eater Man?
That's an easy question to answer, it's you G-man. Nice effort to sidestep the Rasmussen poll that I just posted that shows Hillary is leading in Iowa. Here's what Bill said: ... Clinton also said, surprisingly, with a laugh, "It's a miracle she even has a chance" to win in Iowa, adding he was not just "low-balling it." He said John Edwards might well win -- which would certainly be preferable, from the Clintons' perspective, to an Obama win there. I've commented a couple of times about the Iowa situation, pointing out that there was talk about Hillary's campaign skipping Iowa all together. Clinton is just saying they didn't think she had a chance. Now she obviously does. That of course is upsetting for those conservatives like yourself who don't want your candidate going up against Hillary.
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So MEM thinks the Rasmussen poll is accurate and, therefore, any one who disputes it is a bullshitter
Obviously, if Bill Clinton thinks Hillary will probably not win, he is disputing that poll.
Therefore, MEM is calling Bill Clinton a liar.
I can't say I disagree with his characterization of "Der Slickmeister." But it's surprising to hear the board's most dedicated Clintonista attack the cult of personality's supreme leader.
Maybe this shows that Hillary is, in fact, really in charge of the family.
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Iowa Presents Problems for Clinton
The Associated Press By BETH FOUHY Associated Press Writer
EMMETSBURG, Iowa Jun 1, 2007 (AP)
Memo to Hillary Rodham Clinton: Your deputy campaign manager was right. An internal campaign memo late last month urged the Democratic front-runner to bypass first-up and momentum-generating Iowa because of Clinton's lackluster showing despite drawing large crowds a memo she immediately disavowed.
Yet, the reality from Des Moines to Dubuque lends credence to deputy campaign manager Mike Henry's assessment that for Clinton, Iowa is "our consistently weakest state."
... As I've said a couple of times, Iowa was going to be a tough fight for Hillary as this article (one of many) from just this last June points out. So when Bill Clinton says it's a miracle that Hillary can win he's not bullshitting. Not that long ago they were considering writing off Iowa as a loss. Personally I think Hillary was right in putting the resources in a state they didn't think they could win. Now she actually has a chance of winning & if she loses it's looking like it will be a close one. That will come in handy when other states hold their primaries.
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OBAMA, HUCKABEE, LEAD IN IOWA POLL- Republican Mike Huckabee and Democratic Sen. Barack Obama have taken the lead among Iowans likely to take part in their respective party caucuses, according to The Des Moines Register's latest polling.
Huckabee, a former governor of Arkansas, wins the support of 29% of Iowans who say they definitely or probably will attend the Republican Party's caucuses on Jan. 3. That's a gain of 17 percentage points since the last Iowa Poll was taken in early October, when Huckabee trailed Mitt Romney and Fred Thompson.
Obama, an Illinois senator, leads for the first time in the Register's poll as the choice of 28% of likely Democratic Party caucus goers, up from 22% in October. Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., was the preferred candidate of 25%, down from 29% in the previous poll.
Romney, who has invested more time and money campaigning in the state than any other GOP candidate, remains in the thick of the Iowa race with the backing of 24% of likely caucusgoers. But that's a drop of 5 percentage points since October for the former Massachusetts governor.
And that was before Oprah campaigned for Obama, and his numbers spiked even more.
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As I've said a couple of times, Iowa was going to be a tough fight for Hillary
You must have said it somewhere other than here. I searched the "politics" forum for posts you've made in the past year with the word "Iowa" in it. Of the posts that talk about Clinton they are all almost uniformly upbeat about her prospects in Iowa:
DES MOINES—Sen. Hillary Clinton began her presidential journey in this bellwether state on Saturday
"I want to renew the promise of America. It starts right here in Iowa. I'm in it to win," Clinton (D-N.Y.) told cheering supporters
She is still the top choice in every national survey; where she lags, as in Iowa... She has dominated the debates, demonstrated mastery on the issues, deftly deployed her husband, shown a sense of humor and warmth that some doubted she had (as in the Sopranos video), and withstood the slingshots of former friends (for instance David Geffen) and foes.
No one has questioned her ability or her toughness, her stamina or her style. I've hardly read a word about her hair or her clothes. she's closing the gap in Iowa She improved her standing alot & even now it's all within the margin of error with Iowa.
Polls have shown Clinton holding double-digit leads over Obama in their effort to be the Democratic candidate in the November 2008 election.
Hillary was trailing in the Iowa polls 5 months ago. Since then she rallied & out of 12 polls she's lead in 11 of them. The Clinton campaign trumpeted new AP-Pew polls that show her leading in Iowa with 31 percent The latest poll shows Hillary surging ahead in Iowa a new Iowa State University poll that has basically the exact same results as the AP-Pew poll with Hillary leading Hillary still leading in Iowa So, basically, you made one post early on mentioning that she was lagging in Iowa but insisting that she'd do well there in the end. Nothing about it being a tough fight.
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Er G-man there are a couple of posts you found that note she wasn't leading in Iowa not so long ago. And yeah I'm upbeat about Clinton. I think she would make a great President. And you like Rudy & your upbeat about him.
BTW can we agree that it was established early on that Hillary was going to have tough time in Iowa or do I need to post more archived articles by the media that you've proclaimed has already corronatted Clinton?
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DES MOINES, Iowa (Reuters) - Republican John McCain and Democrat Hillary Clinton got a boost to their campaigns for presidential nominations from an influential newspaper on Sunday despite setbacks in opinion polls.
The Des Moines Register, Iowa's largest newspaper, endorsed the two candidates for the fast-approaching Iowa caucuses, calling them the best prepared and most tested of the White House contenders.
The paper is an agenda setter in a state where on January 3 voters kick off the state-by-state battle to choose Republican and Democratic candidates in the November 2008 election.
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The Register said Clinton, a New York senator and former first lady, was best prepared of the Democratic candidates to confront the country's challenges.
"From working for children's rights as a young lawyer to meeting with leaders around the world as first lady to emerging as an effective legislator in her service as a senator, every stage of her life has prepared her for the presidency," the paper said.
... I don't usually post endorsements celebraty or otherwise but this one is known as the gold standard of endorsements & has a history of boosting the candidates they pick.
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I've said it before, but sometimes the depth of mem's devotion to hillary makes me wonder if he's really gay. 
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I've said it before, but sometimes the depth of mem's devotion to hillary makes me wonder if he's really gay. 
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I've said it before, but sometimes the depth of mem's devotion to hillary makes me wonder if he's really gay. And for all the attention some of you Republican boys pay me I'm beginning to wonder some things myself
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'CHAOS' IN HILLARY'S CAMPAIGN- The bickering is far from over in Camp Clinton, insiders say, even as staffers closed ranks in an effort to leave last week's campaign gaffes in the past.
"They're in chaos - there's definite friction at the top between [Clinton spokesman] Howard Wolfson and [chief strategist] Mark Penn," said a source close to the campaign.
"Clinton's doing the best she can to get back on message, but her top echelon's distracted by its own power struggle, as opposed to worrying about her," the source said, adding that a serious staff shakeup was unlikely, but "an old Clinton ally could be brought in to mediate between Wolfson and Penn."
Another former Bill Clinton strategist called attempts to malign Sen. Barack Obama's credibility with voters "idiotic."
"Who cares what Obama was writing when he was in kindergarten?" said the analyst, referring to recent Clinton reports that Obama from an early age had shown an interest in running for president.
"And now we're moving up the food chain to what he did in high school? It's an idiotic strategy, and it came at the wrong time for her."
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COUNCIL BLUFFS, Iowa – Sen. Hillary Clinton kicked off a five-day blitz across Iowa Sunday, telling a crowd that her campaign was "energized and picking up momentum" in its final push toward the Jan. 3 caucus.
After a week of disappointing poll numbers and the in-state surge of Sen. Barack Obama, Clinton's morning began on a high note, when 238,000 copies of The Des Moines Register hit the doorsteps of Iowa homes, featuring a front-page endorsement of Clinton for the Democrats and Sen. John McCain for the Republicans.
"It was an important event in this process and I am very grateful that they zeroed in on the work that needs to be done by the next president, by my vision of our country, my plans for change and my will to lead," she said in front of about 250 supporters at an Council Bluffs high school.
The Register editorial also focused on Clinton's "preparedness" to assume the responsibility of the presidency, contrasting her with Obama's "relative inexperience," a theme the Clinton campaign has highlighted recently here and in New Hampshire.
"It all comes down to one question," Clinton said. "Who is ready and able to make the changes we need, starting on day one, at the White House?"
"You are," the crowd shouted.
"Well, some people believe you make change by demanding it. Some people you make change by hoping for it," she in a veiled reference to Obama, whose name she did not mention during her 35-minute stump speech.
"I believe you make change by working hard for it."
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I wouldn't get too excited about newspaper endorsements if I were you. As the American Journalism Review points out, "the impact of endorsements on national or even regional elections – contests in which candidates are well-known among voters – is negligible....a Pew Center for the People & the Press study ... which measured media influences on voters during the 2004 presidential campaign, concluded that "newspaper endorsements ...dissuade as many Americans as they persuade."
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