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Dear, sweet Harley Kwink...I'm madly in love with you. Marry me! We can go to Canadia. Or Boston or something. It'll be grand...You know the cookies are a given. They are ALWAYS a given. You could dump me tomorrow and you'd still get the cookies. Boston..shit, wherever dyke weddings were legalized. And where better to rub their little piggie noses in how bad they suck than right on their doorstep? What are they gonna do? Be jealous of you? Stare furiously at your tah-tahs? Not willingly give you cookies, but instead begrudgingly give you their cookies? Woman, time to wake up to the powers you wield - Uschi

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I think everyone is agreed that the way Marvel eliminated Peters and MJs marriage was gayer than kamphausen at his very gayest!

Halo brings up the point that I have the biggest problem with - Peter sold his soul to the devil.

I am not religious in anyway(other than my devout worship of the horny little ginger devil Nowhereman!) But a character with Peters beliefs would never sell his soul.

To the nay sayers(I haven't met any so far), who will try to make the argument that Peter made a deal not sold his soul - you don't make deal with the devil, which Mephisto essentially is.

My next problem is the descent in the Marvel ranks! For JMS to post that he is not happy with the end of the story and wanted his name taken off the credits doesn't bold well! Yeah yeah, cheap publicity!

But it undermines these so called Marvel summits that Donkeyfucker is always going on about - it seems he listens to everybody, then he'll do what the fuck he wants! Joey the Q, preaches that they plan shit in advance but it goes to show that they had no resolution to Peters unmasking, Mays shooting - they pulled this story out Q's fat arse.

I liked the beginning of JMS run, it was the freshest Spider-man had been in years, he introduced some good topics, the Spider totem(ok, some of you guys hated it but it did have potential - which was never reached) and he even offered a more logical way out for Peter, which was mentioned earlier in this thread! In the story with Loki, it ended with Loki owing Spidey a favour! I don't care if this was beyond the characters capability, it's the Marvel Loki, I would far prefer Spidey making a deal with the Norse God of mischief then the devil - FUCK, I'd prefer peter using the Skrull crisis to get out of the secret identity thing!


Another problem is addressed by Nowhereman and G-man! I agree with Nowhereman, whether you liked Crisis, it dealt with the universe as a whole, you make liked some parts and hated others, they were dealing with everyone! Marvel is dealing with just one character, who before Civil War, they may have got away with but afterwards too many characters had been touched!

That was before of course I read the last issue of OMD to see the return of Harry - WTF!

As Joe of MAMA said, how does that effect Norman in Thunderbolts because that should should surely have major ramifercussions! Grimmalkin rightly points out that nothing will probably happen because Ellis can not be bothered with continuity.

Check this out:

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0801/07/spidey.htm

SO! No one NOW knows who Spider-man is anymore! The general public are aware that he revealed his identity but can;t remember who he is! One word - LAZY!

Not even Daredevil knows! There goes the classic, Death of Jean De Wolff!

Ironically, one of the new writers is Dan Slott, who wrote the brilliant Spider-man/Human Torch:I'm with stupid, where Peter finally reveals his identity to close friend Johnny Storm - no more.

Spoilers.

Forgetting the actual story, at least the stories, Sins of the Past, Avengers disassembled and The Other are now resigned to the mists of time!

Hopefully the clone saga, maximum carnage and the stories from the 90s in general are also all gone!

How does this effect Venom and to a lesser extent, Carnage? Is Brock Venom again?

WOW! My longest post for a very long while! I could probably go on but I can't be bothered!

I'll end this by saying that Liefeld could probably have come up with a better story to retcon Peters and MJ marriage!

And that is essentially the point I'm trying to make - yes I can understand it being done but not only was it done so very badly but Marvel ended opening cans of worm s that never needed to - why'd the have to undo so much and bring Harry back?


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Scott Tipton, over at Comics101, agrees and points out some similar issues:
  • how does this affect CIVIL WAR? If Spidey's unmasking and subsequent switching of sides never happened, then did CIVIL WAR unfold differently? Are we ever going to be told that story?

    Forget about CIVIL WAR, what about NEW AVENGERS? Clearly, none of those comics ever happened now, since a big part of that storyline was Peter, MJ and May moving into Stark Tower, and now that all has been wiped away. It surprises me that Quesada was willing to invalidate so much of the successful work done under his watch just to undo the marriage. Not to mention that the entire Stracyznski run has now also been rendered completely invalid, which is a real shame, as when his writing wasn't being dictated by outside influences (as we've since learned was the case on SINS PAST, for example), they made for some of the best Spidey stories in years.

    And what about Venom? His earliest appearances came just after the Pete-MJ marriage, and if memory serves, often involved his threatening a married MJ; clearly, none of those stories took place, so Venom's backstory by definition must now be entirely new.

    That whole business with the clones? Gone, one would assume, since so much of that involved Peter and MJ struggling to stay together in the face of Pete's identity crisis.

    Even more striking is Harry's return, which lets us know exactly how many years' worth of Spidey stories no longer took place. Since the Harry we see here is definitely a single Harry, with no mention of wife Liz or son Norman, either Harry has divorced Liz in the new Spidey-continuity, or that marriage never took place either, which would set back Spider-Man's time-clock all the way back to 1976. That's a lot of Spider-history to have to ignore.

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Your post has much better clarity!

I wondered about Venom, Maximum Carnage, Clone saga! As your post points out, it was during Pete's and MJ's marriage - so they really have messed these stories up!

His time with Avengers is also Royally screwed! I can't with to see the next few issues of New Avengers to see where he stands on that team!

I am going to laugh myself stupid if they retcon his membership entirely!

If all this wasn't confusing enough, bringing back Harry is the icing on the cake! As G-man post points out, where's Liz etc!

JoeQs, stick around and find out isn't quite enough for me!


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I think we're all forgetting the most important thing of all.Jarvis will now have no longer dated Aunt May.


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Wait....does Peter even remember his true past?

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pro, I dont even remember his true past...


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whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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death bring you the peace you never found in

life." - Tuvok.

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she looks like she just needs a fuck in the mouth

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Poor Jeffy doesn't realize that, if Spidey's beside him, they must be praying to Mephisto.

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