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Huckabee, Ron Paul, Edwards, and possibly Obama, are the only ones suggesting possible solutions to the hemmorage of capital and jobs leaving the United States, that is feuling this decline, not only the cyclical decline of our economy, but more significantly the long-term international decline in the dollar itself.
Which is why I support Edwards, am happy with Obama's success, have little problem with Huckabee and am happy with Ron Paul's presence and voice in the campaign. And why I couldn't give 2 fucks about Hillary Clinton. Pop.u.lis.m
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Clinton Announces $70 Bln Plan to Bolster the Economy (Update1)
By Catherine Dodge
Jan. 11 (Bloomberg) -- Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton today unveiled a $70 billion plan to bolster the economy amid growing fears of a recession.
Along with spending and emergency assistance to cover rising energy costs and to help avoid foreclosures on homes, the New York senator called on Congress to be prepared to enact a $40 billion tax rebate for middle-income families if the economy continues to weaken.
Clinton, attempting to get ahead of her rivals in the presidential race in addressing economic concerns, will outline her strategy in an appearance in California later today. Calls for stimulus have increased since reports last week showed that manufacturing contracted and unemployment jumped in December.
``Economists and politicians are finally waking up to what many of America's families already know: that we might be sliding into a recession,'' Clinton said in a statement. ``I would work with leaders from both parties to pass an aggressive, fast-acting stimulus package to create good new jobs.''
... While the boys spend most of their time generally trying to convince voters that their the "change" candidate Hillary's been busy.
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Clinton, McCain lead new national poll
Email|Link|Comments (0)Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor January 11, 2008 04:36 PM
National polls are not all that meaningful at this stage in the presidential race.
Still, their comeback victories this week in New Hampshire boosted the numbers for Democrat Hillary Clinton and Republican John McCain.
The CNN/Opinion Research poll, conducted Wednesday and Thursday and released this afternoon, shows Clinton with a 49 percent to 36 percent lead over Barack Obama, with John Edwards at 12 percent. Clinton's support rose from 40 percent in the same poll last month.
Among Democrats, the worsening economy has jumped ahead of healthcare and the Iraq war as an issue, according to the survey. Clinton leads among Obama in voters' confidence in how they would deal with those concerns.
... Looks like Clinton got quite a bounce from her NH win or perhaps this is just things going back to normal after Iowa?
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Huckabee, Ron Paul, Edwards, and possibly Obama, are the only ones suggesting possible solutions to the hemmorage of capital and jobs leaving the United States, that is feuling this decline, not only the cyclical decline of our economy, but more significantly the long-term international decline in the dollar itself.
Which is why I support Edwards, am happy with Obama's success, have little problem with Huckabee and am happy with Ron Paul's presence and voice in the campaign. And why I couldn't give 2 fucks about Hillary Clinton. Pop.u.lis.m Pop.u.lis.EM
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Populingus? Populesbianism? What's with all the odd spellings of populism?
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Populingus? Populesbianism? What's with all the odd spellings of populism? Not spelling so much as sounding it out. pop.u.lis.AM
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Clinton, McCain top polls
Posted by The Associated Press January 14, 2008 11:22AM
Hillary Clinton maintains a lead over fellow Democrat Barack Obama, and John McCain jumped to the top of the Republican field, two new polls showed Monday.
The Washington Post-ABC News poll had Clinton ahead of Obama 42 percent to 37 percent, while the CBS News-New York Times survey gave her a wider lead, 42 percent to 27 percent. John Edwards drew support from 11 percent of respondents in both polls.
On the GOP side, McCain's win in New Hampshire boosted him to 28 percent in the Post-ABC poll and 33 percent in the CBS-Times poll. That came mostly at the expense of Rudy Giuliani.
Mike Huckabee was second with 20 percent (Post) and 18 percent (CBS), trailing McCain by 8 and 15 points, respectively. Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani were closer than that to Huckabee but traded third and fourth place between the surveys.
Only CBS had Romney slipping to single digits, tying with Fred Thompson at 8 percent. The Post found GOP rivals Ron Paul and Duncan Hunter with 3 percent and 2 percent.
Both polls were conducted Wednesday through Saturday. The margin of error was 3 percentage points. Personally I'm pretty skeptical with any polls between Hillary & Obama. I think we're all going to have to wait till at least February to see whats what.
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I can't give the exact numbers, but on ABC's Sunday morning This Week show, one of the panelists said that the polls before the New Hampshire primary were correct, in the number of committed voters said they would vote for Obama.
Based on the number of decideds, Obama was the projected winner.
But the undecideds went overwhelmingly for Hillary, and so she won.
But regardless, the poll projected the wrong winner.
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It also probably helped Obama to have about 5 days of polls & media showing him winning by double digits.
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My personal feeling is [Barack Hussein Obama]'s the one they would like to go against where they can attack him on being inexperienced & all the other bs that you can find on this thread earlier. If he wins the Democratic nomination they'll start treating him like a Clinton. ...at least some conservatives are of the opinion we would much rather run against the strident, angry, ethically challenged Hildebeast Hillary than Obama If you really wanted Hillary to be the Democratic pick you would be posting much differently. You might want to clue in Bill Maher, MEM. He thinks we want to run against Hillary: - Bill Maher, on the Friday night season debut of his HBO show, suggested that because Republicans prefer to run against Hillary Clinton than Barack Obama they engineered her victory in New Hampshire's Democratic primary.
Maher opened the panel discussion by observing how he found it “odd” that polls showed Obama ahead in New Hampshire, yet Clinton won, and “it does bother me that a private company runs the polling machines and that only they certainly seem to know what went on...Who profits from the Hillary victory? They don't want to run against Obama. Your party does not want to run against him. They want to run against Hillary Clinton and now they have a race with her in it."
Let us know which conspiracy theory you guys decide to run with, okay?
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That's not quite how he said. He was speculating since Hilary did pull off a major upset.
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Yeah, he was speculating about whether or not the GOP "rigged" the primary. But his speculation was based on his sincerely held belief that the Republicans would rather run against Hillary than Obama. MEM has a sincerely held belief we'd rather run against Obama. I am simply pointing out the dueling theories from two different liberals.
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...Let us know which conspiracy theory you guys decide to run with, okay? I base my opinion on how I see various conservative pundits & bloggers acting. There are obviously different opinions but I still see more of them favoring Obama as more beatable.
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On the "experience" argument, I'd argue that George H.W. Bush in 1988 had the most impressive resume of anyone who'd ever run for president. But that didn't make him the most effective leader.
One of my favorite quotes about Bush Sr., on how he governed far more moderately than he campaigned as, the then-president of the Heritage Foundation in 1992 said: "We voted for George Bush, and we got Michael Dukakis!"
I think that remark mostly had to do with the tax increases, and the unwillingness to cut spending with his veto power.
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wonder mcgrion = bush family cock sucker rex = Jonopolus family sock fucker.
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Uhh, rex?
That last comment of mine was deeply critical of both Bush's.
What hallucinogenics are you taking, that you could misinterpret this as "sucking Bush cock"?
I guess the same way you and the other liberal weenies here ignore my repeated criticisms of Bush here. If I agree with the guy, even partially, on one or two issues, I'm a goose-stepping neocon, right?
- from Do Racists have lower IQ's...
Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.
EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
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That last comment of mine was about me deep throating the bush family.
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I'm so gay for Wonder Boy it's not even funny. Well, y'know rex, that's awfully flattering and all, but I just don't swing that way. Somewhere out there's a sock that's perfect for you !
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On the "experience" argument, I'd argue that George H.W. Bush in 1988 had the most impressive resume of anyone who'd ever run for president. But that didn't make him the most effective leader.
One of my favorite quotes about Bush Sr., on how he governed far more moderately than he campaigned as, the then-president of the Heritage Foundation in 1992 said: "We voted for George Bush, and we got Michael Dukakis!"
I think that remark mostly had to do with the tax increases, and the unwillingness to cut spending with his veto power.
Like father, like son. The economy started improving under Bush Sr., he made decisions based on what he thought was best for the country even when he knew it would cost him a chance at being re-elected. I really have grown to respect him with time.
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Uhh, rex?
That last comment of mine was deeply critical of both Bush's.
What hallucinogenics are you taking, that you could misinterpret this as "sucking Bush cock"?   I guess the same way you and the other liberal weenies here ignore my repeated criticisms of Bush here. If I agree with the guy, even partially, on one or two issues, I'm a goose-stepping neocon, right? 
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American Spectator: - With none of the other major Democratic candidates on the ballot, Hillary Clinton was only able to garner 58 percent of the Michigan vote as of this writing, while "uncommitted" won 37 percent.
More troubling for Clinton heading into South Carolina are exit polls showing that a staggering 70 percent of black voters took the time to go to the polls to vote for "uncommitted" over Hillary. "Uncommitted" also won among voters in the 18-29 and 30-44 age ranges, and among independents.
If only "uncommitted" had the money to take out TV ads, it just might have beaten Hillary.
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American Spectator: - With none of the other major Democratic candidates on the ballot, Hillary Clinton was only able to garner 58 percent of the Michigan vote as of this writing, while "uncommitted" won 37 percent.
More troubling for Clinton heading into South Carolina are exit polls showing that a staggering 70 percent of black voters took the time to go to the polls to vote for "uncommitted" over Hillary. "Uncommitted" also won among voters in the 18-29 and 30-44 age ranges, and among independents.
If only "uncommitted" had the money to take out TV ads, it just might have beaten Hillary.
One thing to keep in mind though is Hillary didn't campaign in Michigan at all. The Obama & Edwards campaigns did team up & campaigned for the last couple of weeks to get people to vote "uncommitted". So I'm not sure how much stock you can put into those results.
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I don't know exactly how important those elections are, but if I was an US citizen, I would be insulted by the candidates who didn't bother to campaign in my home state.
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I don't know exactly how important those elections are, but if I was an US citizen, I would be insulted by the candidates who didn't bother to campaign in my home state. That was a result of Michigan moving their primary up & being punished by the Democratic party. Edwards & Obama didn't campaign for themselves either but did campaign for people to choose "uncommitted".
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Posted at 5:20 PM ET, 01/19/2008
Clinton and Romney Win in Nevada
By Chris Cillizza
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Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton beat Sen. Barack Obama in the Nevada Democratic caucuses today, while former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney prevailed earlier in the Nevada Republican caucuses.
With 88 percent of the vote counted, Clinton led with 51 percent to 45 percent for Obama (Ill.). Former senator John Edwards trailed far behind with four percent.
Clinton campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe asserted in an interview on MSNBC that his candidate's focus on the economy was crucial to her victory. "It's Hillary that's going to deal with the economic issues," McAuliffe said in an interview on MSNBC moments after the network called the race for Clinton.
Preliminary entrance polling seemed to back up McAuliffe's contention, as the economy was the most important issue on the minds of Democratic caucus goers and Clinton won that group by double digits.
As in New Hampshire, the foundation of Clinton's win came from women. Females accounted for 59 percent of all caucus-goers, and Clinton won that group, 51 percent to 38 percent, over Obama. Clinton has now won women by double-digits over Obama in New Hampshire and Nevada after losing among that demographic cohort in the Jan. 3 Iowa caucuses.
Obama's support from the Culinary Workers Union proved far less important than was first believed. Union members made up three in ten Democratic caucusgoers in Nevada but Clinton won that crucial voting bloc 45 percent to 44 percent. The nine casinos along the Las Vegas Strip -- where the workers are almost all members of the culinary union -- largely went for Clinton.
... This puts Hillary in a good spot even if she loses SC & who knows, at this point she may pick that one up also.
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Mark Finkelstein: - Carl Bernstein isn't just, on the basis of his Watergate-busting fame, a liberal icon. He's also a certified Hillary Clinton expert, having devoted years to researching and writing a definitive biography of her, A Woman in Charge. So his comments tonight on Hillary's graceless reaction to her stunning defeat at the hands of Barack Obama carry special weight, and are likely to reverberate through Dem circles. Here's Bernstein's brutal take, appearing on CNN:
One of the worst nights of Hillary Clinton's life. She had a chance at the end of the evening to be magnanimous, to say something about where her campaign is going to go. Instead she was shopworn, tired; it's exactly what they don't need, the Clinton campaign, and she's going to have an uphill fight from here in.
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She'll probably do very well in Florida, that will give her a nice lift for the mass of primaries coming up.
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I would hope you would agree G-man that photo isn't even close to the 17 yr relationship Obama has had with "slumlord Rezco". Presidents sign photos for friends, this looks like one of those quicky photos that the Clintons had taken with thousands of people.
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As someone who has been in politics, and been to fundraisers with state and national figures, I know for a fact that you don't get a picture like that (posed in front of a neutral background, with the flag) with any major political figure, let alone two, unless you donate a very, very, large sum of money to that figure or their party.
So, clearly, Rezco is not just an "Obama backer" as you noted. He is, or was, a "Clinton backer."
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Beyond the unsigned picture there isn't anything else though connecting them. However with Obama there is a 17 yr relationship of Rezko helping out Obama. He even helped Obama buy a home. They were friends & neighbors. Again I think you would have to agree with me that there isn't a comparison.
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