RKMBs Forums .::Important::. Politics and Current Events Hillary in 2008

Ray, trust me, if your thought machine were working correctly, I would already have a frosty beverage in my hand.

that's assuming the thought machine has control over me. just because you lust for the chilled sperm of young Thai boys doesn't mean I have any intention of collecting it for you.

Um, Ray, all kidding aside, there's something really, really, disturbing about the fact that your brain could actually conjure up a concept like "lust for the chilled sperm of young Thai boys".

Seriously. This just took a very ugly term.

Speaking of which, the Washington Post reports on the fact that Hillary paid $7500.00 to a voice coach:

• According to Clinton campaign's latest federal campaign disclosure report, the Democratic presidential candidate paid $7,500 to voice and drama coach extraordinaire Michael Sheehan in October.
  
  Sen. Clinton also sought Sheehan's guidance for the publicity tour for her memoir, "Living History," in which she describes her upbringing as well as her "terrible, painful experience" in the White House.
  
  Sheehan's clients include such media companies as the Washington Post and AOL, as well as big oil companies, HMOs, insurance companies and defense contractors.
  
  "At some point, every kind of leader faces an important audience from behind a lectern or in front of a television camera," goes the pitch on the Sheehan Associates site. "A confident, relaxed ability to communicate effectively can be your competitive edge."
  
  Sheehan was traveling abroad Monday and unable to talk to us about his work with Clinton.

To be fair, Hillary is hardly the only candidate to hire a voice or performance coach. But it does further demonstrate that she works hard to manufacture an image for herself and, therefore, fake tears are hardly out of the question.

It looks like Hillary is going to get Ted Kennedy's state

when was the last time you think Hillary blew Bill? And do you think she swallowed or spit it out?
It's the question no one is asking. The liberal media is only interested in blowjobs outside of marriage.

Once again the polls were way off. I was figuring since there were multiple polls showing Obama with sudden 10 point leads in CA that Hillary was in trouble. Winning California plus the other big states & a bunch of others insures that this race won't be over & she very much still has a good chance of winning the nomination. Besides Texas & Ohio there is still the matter of Florida & Michigan. There is now talk of do-overs for these.

My favorite part of the Super Tuesday coverage was when they were calling states for candidates with only 3% of the votes counted.

Not just on the major networks, but on the PBS coverage as well.

Here's a wild idea: Report what actually happened, instead of pre-determining the outcome.

3% is a minority. and we all know how you hate minorities.


you don't consider PBS a major network despite it's long history of providing quality entertainment and information to the American people? why do you hate America so much?


I agree. I'm sick of these impatient forecasts. This is why I lean more and more towards newspapers. They compile their numbers and print it. 24 hour news is a joke that is destroying the way people get information, turning it into a free for all stream of thought. Remember 2000? I was watching and Gore won on the screen, i fell asleep for 20 minutes and woke up to see Bush won on the screen, then I took a brief shower and came back to see Gore had won again.
Exit polls should be illegal, releasing voting results until 100% are counted should also be illegal. Announcing the winner should be a definitive thing, not speculation.

I'm voting Hillary. I know what I said before about holding my nose for McCain, but seeing Romney drop out was just too much.

She now has my support.

...Seriously?

This isn't some attempt at being hillary-ously funny?

Ed Morrissey:

• Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton announced yesterday that she had lent her campaign $5 million, a remarkable twist for a candidate who raised more than $100 million last year that came as she and Sen. Barack Obama continued to spar over which of them was the Democratic winner in coast-to-coast Super Tuesday balloting.
  
  Where did Hillary get $5 million to loan a presidential campaign? Bill and Hillary have done well on the speaking circuit, and Bill recently got $20 million or so for backing out of his partnership from Ron Burkle. At the time, speculation had Bill wanting to eliminate any potential conflicts between Burkle's business and Hillary's election.
  
  Now, however, one has to wonder whether Burkle may have attempted to float money into Hillary's campaign while bypassing campaign-finance regulations. Did the $20 million, which came just two weeks ago, actually represent a fair-market settlement for Clinton's services and ownership stake in Yucaipa? Or did Burkle inflate it in order to allow Hillary to "loan" herself $5 million to keep pace with a surging Obama campaign?
  
  The Clintons always seem to live at the nexus of questions regarding cash and politics. Whether we talk about Norman Hsu or Ron Burkle, their opacity in financial operations suggests a very, er, flexible attitude towards ethics in government -- and serves as a reminder why so many people oppose a Clinton Restoration.

because G-man posts that picture implying she has a penis?

To be fair G-man any democrat in a power position is attacked by you & others. If Obama wins we'll see Rezko get more play by Rush Limbaugh & company & anything else that could be made to look shady.

I knew she had a penis when I was still vying for a Republican candidate (see also: Thompson, Romney).

Why did you italisize "Hillary" add a hyphen at the end of it. "Hillary-ously" isn't even a word with or without the hyphen.

i think i'll vote for hillary in the primary, i like mccain and huckabee equally, so i think i'll vote for her over the terrorist.

Does that mean you are a registered democrat?

This might also explain why Hillary, unlike Obama, has refused to release her tax returns:

• Hillary Rodham Clinton's big contributors were left stunned yesterday by her personal loan of $5 million to the campaign - with some wondering whether the move was a stunt, and others fearing their contributions were wasted on a high-priced pollster.
  
  The loan signaled that Clinton had burned through millions in campaign cash to fight Barack Obama to a draw on Super Tuesday - while his campaign raised $7.5 million online since Tuesday.
  
  Obama seized on the loan issue to pressure Clinton to release her tax returns.
  
  "I'll just say that I've released my tax returns - that's been a policy I've maintained consistently," Obama said.
  
  "I think the American people deserve to know where you get your income from."
  
  The Clinton camp says that it will release her returns if she wins the nomination

nope, in Ohio you can vote in either party at the primary.

Yeah, I kind of suspected that you might live in an open primary state. You never struck me as a Democrat. I would have guessed an independent, libertarian or maybe Republican.

I'm a neolibertarianocratpublican.

Politically my choice would be Ron Paul but he doesnt have a chance. On the Republican side I dont have a preference between MCain and Huckabee.

On the Democrat side I disdain both but find Hillary the lesser of two evils and will give her my vote in the Primary and the Republican nominee in the General.

Had Edwards been the Democrat nominee I would have voted for him in the General.

No, I don't hate minorities.
But you love to slanderously allege that relentlessly, to falsely paint that perception through sheer repetition, against what I've actually said. Or in other words:









Again, I'm a huge enthusiast for the PBS NEws Hour, and PBS programming in general, so you again misrepresent me to have made some kind of derisive remark when it clearly wasn't intended that way.

My point was only that it isn't among the most watched or influential networks or news programs. I'd guess their market to be a fraction of 5% of news viewers.

Although PBS is highly regarded;

• http://www.prairiepublic.org/pressroom/pbs1.html
  
  http://www.pbs.org/aboutpbs/aboutpbs_corp_audience.html

Glad we could agree on something.

Obama seemed to be channelling G-man today, all that is missing is the word shady. I believe it's pretty standard for candidates not to disclose until they win the nominations. It of course is fair game for Obama to try to make an issue of it just like when Hillary brought up his pal the slumlord that financed his earlier campaigns. BTW did anyone else think Obama was being deceptive when he characterized that 15 yr relationship as only 5 hrs of legal work?

That's interesting because, politically (that is, on a policy level), Obama and Edwards are pretty close. In fact, Obama is the probably the closest to Edwards on policy issues of then any other candidate or former candidate.

Conversely, Paul is probably the furthest from Edwards on every thing except the war.

I draw names out of a jar.

New York Times columnist (and admitted liberal) Frank Rich, on how Hillary Clinton is being marketed "as a synthetic product leeched of most human qualities."

• Less than two weeks ago she was airlifted into her own, less effective version of “Mission Accomplished.” Instead of declaring faux victory in Iraq, she starred in a made-for-television rally declaring faux victory in a Florida primary that was held in defiance of party rules, involved no campaigning and awarded no delegates. As Andrea Mitchell of NBC News said, it was “the Potemkin village of victory celebrations.”
  
  The Clinton campaign might be an imploding Potemkin village itself were it not for the fungible profits from Bill Clinton’s murky post-presidency business deals.
  
  [T]he wholesale substitution of Hispanics for blacks on the Hallmark show is tainted by a creepy racial back story. Last month a Hispanic pollster employed by the Clinton campaign pitted the two groups against each other by telling The New Yorker that Hispanic voters have “not shown a lot of willingness or affinity to support black candidates.” Mrs. Clinton then seconded the motion by telling Tim Russert in a debate that her pollster was “making a historical statement.” It wasn’t an accurate statement, historical or otherwise. It was a lie, and a bigoted lie at that, given that it branded Hispanics, a group as heterogeneous as any other, as monolithic racists.
  
  The question now is how much more racial friction the Clinton campaign will gin up if its Hispanic support starts to erode in Texas, whose March 4 vote it sees as its latest firewall. Clearly it will stop at little. That’s why you now hear Clinton operatives talk ever more brazenly about trying to reverse party rulings so that they can hijack 366 ghost delegates from Florida and the other rogue primary, Michigan, where Mr. Obama wasn’t even on the ballot. So much for Mrs. Clinton’s assurance on New Hampshire Public Radio last fall that it didn’t matter if she alone kept her name on the Michigan ballot because the vote “is not going to count for anything.”
  
  [A] Clinton combine so ruthless that it risked shredding three decades of mutual affection with black America to win a primary.

If Frank Rich is still the voice of elite liberal opinion, Hillary is in deep trouble. How many folks on the Upper West Side and reasonable facsimiles thereof from Boston to Madison to LA will be opening their hearts -- or credit cards -- to Hillary after reading Rich's stunning indictment in the house paper of the upper class left?

The "latte liberals" have been backing Obama for a while now & Hillary's been doing OK so far. Shame on Frank Rich btw for this garbage he wrote. When it came to Nevada & the latino vote Obama supporters ran radio spots playing on race. I think the question is what will Obama do to get those votes.

Ah G-man's once again demonstrating how he wants to discuss things again. It would have been more interesting to see what you actually thought about Frank's opinion that you posted. Too bad you always got to go with one of your tranny pics

Funny...I thought I had, in fact, indicated what I thought about Rich's opinion when I wrote:

I think she switched campaign managers moments ago. I do believe it's slipping away. I like Obama and quite frankly I think he is going to get my vote no matter what. We need someone young in there and someone fresh to start standing up to the corporations that are running this economy to the ground. Praise Allah!

I really can't blame you for thinking that way, given the way the media incessantly pounds the anti-corporation drumbeat (while, parodoxically, being run by corporations) and the fact that you're also a relatively young guy, whom, I suspect, has never really tried to operate a business under an anti-corporation federal government.

However, when that day happens, I suspect you're going to be very unhappy. Laws that target "corporations" have a funny way of screwing over small business people.

Yep: Clinton Campaign Manager Resigns.

On the bright side, maybe MEM will get a promotion now.

It can't get wose than it is now. I'm 35 this year....practically your age!

I'm specifically talking about the oil industry really. But I wouldn't also mind seeing some kind of cap on the bonuses CEOs are getting from these big companies.

Yeah, but that's an important nine year age difference (I'm 44 this year).

For example, that means I'm old enough to really remember what it was like having Jimmy Carter as a President. A guy who thought he could go after the big oil companies and their "evil" profits. As a result we got shortages and gas rationing in addition to rapid price increases. We also had inflation and a recession.

All of those factors were hell on the economy and on small businesses. It was very much worse than it is now.

The interest rates on mortages was about eleven percent. The unemployment rate was around seven or eight percent.



Here's the problem my friend (or at least one of them): any government that can legally or morally tell a CEO how much he can make can just as easily tell a small restaurant owner in NJ how much HE...or anyone else... can make.

There's also the question of why shouldn't a CEO make a lot of money. If he or she is getting a huge bonus, that simply means that the stockholders of the company are pleased with his or her performance and rewarding it. Why would you object to that? What do you think would happen to the money otherwise?