Originally Posted By: whomod
Well, lets review what thedoctor said then..

 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
I don't think the bitter comment is going to hurt Obama in the primaries as many snobby Democrats already hold the same concepts of middle America. It's the general election that that comment is going to come back and bite him in the ass.


Now this frankly doesn't make a lick of sense. So the very same working class PA voters that a couple of days ago were supposedly being looked down by Obama and the 'limousine liberals' have suddenly metamorphed into the very same "snobby Democrats" who were condescending to them??

And this happened how and why? Oh yeah, because Hillary's latest attack and the media frenzy over the weekend didn't end up hurting Obama much as everyone who was salivating over the prospect, expected. So because of this, suddenly these good gun totin', devout people get transformed into the same people who were talking shit about them???

(And yes thedoctor, i include PA voters specifically, because we were discussing them and their election and how the controversy really didn't hurt Obama there in 'the reddest of the blue states' as some expected and hoped..)


I've never said that the comment was going to hurt him with the Democrats. As a matter of fact, I think there's really not going to be anything that's going to change the minds of people who had already decided that they were voting for him. In the general election that his words are going to hurt him when it comes to the independents (who won't be voting in the closed PA primaries) and moderates that will cast their votes.

As for the rest of your post that tongues Obama's asshole, I find him to be dishonest and two-faced. I know that those are common traits in politics and that every politician denies it; but I find it more offensive the more someone says that they're above and beyond such dishonesty as he has. And I don't at all like how he's used issues of race to get ahead. Rev. Wright is okay to spout hatred and racism in his church for 20+ years because he's a good guy if you just take the chance to get to know him. But Don Imus should be fired because he once uttered 'nappy-headed hos' on the radio. Fuck Obama.

whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."