Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
Doc your not making sense. In my opinion there shouldnt be super delegates. If there is they should be required to vote with the majority of voters.


I agree 100%

 Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
On the same token the voters of Michigan and Florida should have their votes count.


I don't deny that either.


 Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
But for you to say it's fair to not count their votes because of party rules, but not fair for super delegates to vote for who they choose according to party rules is a bit hypocritical dont you think?

You talked about votes not counting, and actually in your scenario only Florida and Michigan wouldn't count.

Your opinion supposedly is based on the party rules, yet you only want to apply it to Michigan and Florida and not the rest of the country.


That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that the DNC has a better position to rebound from the fallout regarding Michigan and Florida. They can use the rules as their shield, especially since it is contained to only those two states. However, if they choose Clinton over Obama, it goes beyond the rules with that. Yes, the superdelegates are part of the rules, but then the DNC will have to justify why the superdelegates went with Clinton over Obama. It becomes more than just rules. It becomes a race and class issue. Considering the DNC is supposed to be for the 'common man' and minorities, it'll fuck the party over big time. So, again, it's not just about the rules; it's about how the public will perceive the actions of the DNC.

Personally, I think that primaries (not caucuses) should be the standard for every election and that all 50 states and US territories and commonwealths should hold their elections on the exact same day. Get it all done at once and prevent the common occurrence of candidates just campaigning in the early voting states while ignoring the rest of the country.

whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
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