Sorry Whomod but I find the Obama supporters who try to slam Hillary as somehow wrecking the party the ones doing the true damage. She has every right to continue & still has a chance to win the nomination.
Yes. Whomod and others who try to smear her out of the race are just trying to use other means than the democratic process to get the result they want.
It isn't democracy they're interested in. Just winning.
Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.
EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
No, I'm just glad that you've come around from ranting about how the Democrats were traitors to now being the guy who's trying to help us choose the best candidate so we can beat McCain in the fall.
Sen. Obama has taken the lead in DCW's superdelegates count for the first time. According to news media reports, 2 Superdelegates from Virgin Islands, while Sen. Clinton loses 1.
Accorinding to The page
Day’s Tally: Obama 3, Clinton 0* Obama nabs two Virgin Island supers — Kevin Rodriquez, who switched from Clinton, and Carole Burke. Also picks up Utah DNC super Kristi Cumming after the state elects her as its add-on Clinton gets Massachusetts DNC super Arthur Powell
Update: The Associated Press - AP: Obama overtakes lead in superdelegates for first time
Yes. Whomod and others who try to smear her out of the race are just trying to use other means than the democratic process to get the result they want.
It isn't democracy they're interested in. Just winning.
By any deceitful means at their disposal.
And Republicans have never, EVER, done ANYTHING at all like that.
Jackass.
Knutreturns said: Spoken like the true Greatest RDCW Champ!
I'm surprised you're comparing Obama to FDR. Are you saying that he plans to start WWIII (maybe by invading Pakistan)? Or that BSAMS was right when he predicted Obama would start sticking US citizens into concentration camps on account of their race?
Sen. Emanuel Rebukes Ted Kennedy For "Gratuitous Attack" Against Clinton
May 12, 2008 11:20 a.m. EST
Kris Alingod - AHN News Writer
Washington, D.C. (AHN) - After calling Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) the presumptive Democratic nominee, House Democratic Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel (D-IL) defended Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) over the weekend against what he said were negative attacks by Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA).
"I have a lot of respect for Ted Kennedy, but I don't know how the hell he comes off saying that," Emanuel told the New York Times on Sunday. "The gratuitous attack on her is uncalled for and wrong. He is a better senator than that comment reveals."
Speaking about the prospect of Clinton becoming Obama's Vice Presidential running mate in an interview with Blooomberg Television, Kennedy, a surrogate for the Illinois senator, had said that he was looking for "somebody that is in tune with [Obama's] appeal for the nobler aspirations of the American people."
Almost the same time Kennedy was making his comments last week, Emanuel called Obama the "presumptive nominee" during a conference organized by The New Yorker magazine. Emanuel, who has not endorsed anyone in the race, also said there is still the possibility of Obama losing the nomination.
I know it may look good right now for Obama to have the corronation before he actually wins the nomination but their campaign is acting in such a way that they may end up actually helping Hillary win it.
Yeah. Like Ted Kennedy is some kind of high barometer of liberal idealism.
He's had 4 decades of scandals, backroom deals, and other manifestations of arrogance and corruption. TIME magazine similarly this week has a cover with "And the winner is... [photo of Obama]"
I don't understand this compulsion to bypass the Democratic process and prematurely/un-democratically leverage Hillary aside before the primaries run their course.
It shows Obama, his supporters, and the elites in the media trying to manipulate things in Obama's favor, have something other than democracy as their agenda.
This commercial with Gen. Petraeus testifying before Congress, manifests Obama's foolhardiness in undermining the "Surge" gains in Iraq.
It's possible that Obama, if elected, will later actually listen to the generals and change his policy in Iraq to a longer commitment (rather than his stated "immediate withdrawal"). But that isn't what Obama's consistently campaigned he would do.
(see also what G-man posted about Hamas endorsing Obama, and McCain saying he's Hamas' "worst nightmare".)
Apparently, Obama thinks there are fifty-seven states.
Rush Limbaugh thinks that this was a Freudian slip and Obama was thinking of the fifty-seven Islamic states. I tend to think he's being too hard on Obama. However, I gotta admit: if Dan Quayle, George W. Bush, or any republican, had miscounted the number of states, the press would be having a field day with it.
Apparently, Obama thinks there are fifty-seven states.
Rush Limbaugh thinks that this was a Freudian slip and Obama was thinking of the fifty-seven Islamic states. I tend to think he's being too hard on Obama. However, I gotta admit: if Dan Quayle, George W. Bush, or any republican, had miscounted the number of states, the press would be having a field day with it.
Praise Allah!
Regarding reference to Arab states, The "OBAMA: Muslim Wolf in Christian Wool" article already revealed Obama campaigned for a cousin in Kenya, among things to impose Sharia law in every part of Kenya (in a nation that is only 6% muslim, no less).
It might also be a passing thought to would-be first lady Theresa Heinz Kerry, and her famous 57 ketchup, and that Obama plans to join her flipping burgers somewhere after November. Now that would be change I can believe in!
thedoctor argumentative Moderator Timelord. Drunkard. 10000+ posts Wed May 14 2008 12:08 AM Reading a post Forum: Politics and Current Events Thread: Barack Hussein Obama in '08?
Edwards is endorsing Obama. Wonder if another VP nod is coming his way?
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet."
I thought that back in February...with Bill Clinton being considered for S.o.S.
No, Edwards will provide some bonafides for the white wqking class. Yeah he's rich and all but, his accent and story plays pretty well among the good ol' boys. I think that Edwards will end up in some cabinet level and/or party emeritus position where he can advance his workinbg poor agenda. It's a win/win and just rings the death knell that uch louder for Hillary.
I think the best choice for VP with Obama would be Chuck Hagel(sp?).
Oderint, dum metuant.
You are a god damned idiot, you know that? You ought to be smacked upside your dumb-fuck head, even after all these years. Shame on you!
I thought that back in February...with Bill Clinton being considered for S.o.S.
No, Edwards will provide some bonafides for the white wqking class. Yeah he's rich and all but, his accent and story plays pretty well among the good ol' boys. I think that Edwards will end up in some cabinet level and/or party emeritus position where he can advance his workinbg poor agenda. It's a win/win and just rings the death knell that uch louder for Hillary.
I think the best choice for VP with Obama would be Chuck Hagel(sp?).
Yep. you're on my wavelength. Hagel or Strickland would make ideal choices for VP.
Hagel obviously would be the most symbolically devastating to the GOP though. and it would be a nice counter to the inevitable Lieberman pretending he's still a Democrat at the GOP convention, much like crazy old confederate Zell Miller was in '04.
as for Edwards. It's about time but it's certainly welcome. As are his delegates. not that they're not already gravitating towards Obama. Before this, obama has already increased his superdelegate lead to 10 by picking 2 endorsements today. Edwards adding the party bigwig finality to Hillary's dwindling hopes (has to win over 90% of the supers to have a chance??) to win this race only speeds it along.
No. I laughed at the old bigot who fears change and wants to pick the Democratic candidate based on the fact that older whites say they won't vote for a black man.
Boo hoo. Fuck em then. People want change. And if most of America, and especially Generation Y has to drag West Virginia and Tennessee like the Federal Government had to drag Alabama back in the 1950's then more power to them. We're not going to remain mired in a few peoples racism for another century because some feel we need to pick the candidate the bigots will vote for and who spouts their coded language.
Yesterday, McCain got confused over the most basic facts about who is doing what in Iraq and Iran. Very basic stuff..What if Clinton or Obama had made this mistake?
Obama posited -- incorrectly -- that Arabic translators deployed in Iraq are needed in Afghanistan -- forgetting, momentarily, that Afghans don't speak Arabic.
"We only have a certain number of them and if they are all in Iraq, then its harder for us to use them in Afghanistan," Obama said.
The vast majority of military translators in both war zones are drawn from the local population. Naturally they speak the local language. In Iraq, that's Arabic or Kurdish. In Afghanistan, it's any of a half dozen other languages -- including Pashtu, Dari, and Farsi.
...he immediately made another [mistake].
"We need agricultural specialists in Afghanistan, people who can help them develop other crops than heroin poppies, because the drug trade in Afghanistan is what is driving and financing these terrorist networks. So we need agricultural specialists," he said.
So far, so good.
"But if we are sending them to Baghdad, they're not in Afghanistan," Obama said.
Iraq has many problems, but encouraging farmers to grow food instead of opium poppies isn't one of them. In Iraq, oil fields not poppy fields are a major source of U.S. technical assistance.
At the very least this should be reassuring to that ignorant West Virginia woman who made the rounds on TV the other day stating why she didn't vote For Obama.
Sorry, in light of bush's record on this matter, it's ridiculous that you bring it up in regards to Obama.
