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 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
 Originally Posted By: Halo82
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A shame over 4000 American troops had to die for your guys' stupidity though.


Yes, ignore the estimated 300,000 Iraqis that Saddam had killed in his 24 year reign.


300,000 over 24 years vs 400,000 over 5 years. Hmm

Not to mention 400,000 troops + Iraqi casualties.


The people who've published those gigantic numbers have no scientific method to their study. Essentially, they asked Iraqis how many people they think have died and add the numbers together. At best the number can be estimated to about 150,000 (a grotesque number for sure, despite what your leanings on the war are), which is hardly the 400,000 to 1 million that many anti-war sites are claiming. Again, these are estimated deaths. So far we can prove 300,000+ deaths due to Saddam's orders with many more suspected of being out there. Then again, you don't seem too concerned about that. And people wonder how the tragedies of Darfur or Nazi Germany can happen without anyone attempting to stop them.

x the holocaust


You're kidding right? You don't think we have a scientific method of counting corpses that don't belong to troops? Of all the pencil necks in the Pentagon you don't think one of them can count. Honestly doctor, for years many days you turn on the news and it would say "25 Iraqis killed, 2 U.S soldiers dead". Givin that this has become a Civil War I think it's almost common sense that the ratio of Iraqis killed to our troops will will be higher on the Iraqi side.

And you know what? All that other stuff you complain about Bush doing is superficial and inconsequential in comparison to this war.


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 Originally Posted By: Halo82
You're kidding right? You don't think we have a scientific method of counting corpses that don't belong to troops? Of all the pencil necks in the Pentagon you don't think one of them can count. Honestly doctor, for years many days you turn on the news and it would say "25 Iraqis killed, 2 U.S soldiers dead". Givin that this has become a Civil War I think it's almost common sense that the ratio of Iraqis killed to our troops will will be higher on the Iraqi side.


The ones who use the numbers you quoted didn't get their information from actual morgue documents and only used word of mouth estimates, which is what I said before. Or are you still not able to fucking read? Jesus Christ, it's like talking to a retarded child.

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And you know what? All that other stuff you complain about Bush doing is superficial and inconsequential in comparison to this war.


So....is my disagreeing with how the war has been run inconsequential? Or are you just once again trying to run around my points so that you can feel like you're superior in this conversation? Cuz it ain't workin'.


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
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The ones who use the numbers you quoted didn't get their information from actual morgue documents and only used word of mouth estimates, which is what I said before. Or are you still not able to fucking read? Jesus Christ, it's like talking to a retarded child.


What your saying doesn't make any sense. At all. According to you, Who's sources didn't have scientific methods so now there's NO WAY of knowing an Iraqi body count for sure? Use some fucking common sense.

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So....is my disagreeing with how the war has been run inconsequential? Or are you just once again trying to run around my points so that you can feel like you're superior in this conversation? Cuz it ain't workin'.


The fuck are you talking about? Nobody is talking about your opinion. I'm stating the opinion that all that other shit is a stupid concern in comparison to this war and the direction it's placed America in. You Whores really are the biggest bunch of hypocrites on earth. Instead of conceding a point when backed into a corner you just pull shit out of your ass. I also find it hysterical how you morons have begun taking to the argument "you're just ignoring my points" since that's been one of our main arguments against you bitches.


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 Originally Posted By: Halo82
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The ones who use the numbers you quoted didn't get their information from actual morgue documents and only used word of mouth estimates, which is what I said before. Or are you still not able to fucking read? Jesus Christ, it's like talking to a retarded child.


What your saying doesn't make any sense. At all. According to you, Who's sources didn't have scientific methods so now there's NO WAY of knowing an Iraqi body count for sure? Use some fucking common sense.


You are so goddamn, fucking stupid. Did they not teach you to read in that inbred camp of carny folk you come from? Didn't you see where I said that the most scientific research into Iraqi casualties has the number at less than half of what you quoted?

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 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
So....is my disagreeing with how the war has been run inconsequential? Or are you just once again trying to run around my points so that you can feel like you're superior in this conversation? Cuz it ain't workin'.


The fuck are you talking about? Nobody is talking about your opinion. I'm stating the opinion that all that other shit is a stupid concern in comparison to this war and the direction it's placed America in. You Whores really are the biggest bunch of hypocrites on earth. Instead of conceding a point when backed into a corner you just pull shit out of your ass. I also find it hysterical how you morons have begun taking to the argument "you're just ignoring my points" since that's been one of our main arguments against you bitches.


I stated that I have opinions that don't toe the party line (one being on how the war has been run). You glossed over that just to say that my opinions on education or big government didn't matter as a way to just make me the bad guy again. Ignore the fact that two of the examples I gave are directly tied to Iraq and the War on Terror (Gitmo and the overall running of the Iraq campaign). I made my opinions on this war rather clear in this very thread today. Just because you disagree with them, it doesn't mean that you're right.


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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 Originally Posted By: Halo82
Instead of conceding a point when backed into a corner I just pull shit out of my ass - which isn't easy considering how tightly everything's packed up there. I also find it hysterical how you morons have begun taking to the argument "you're just ignoring my points" since that's exactly what I've been doing the whole time.


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You are so goddamn, fucking stupid. Did they not teach you to read in that inbred camp of carny folk you come from? Didn't you see where I said that the most scientific research into Iraqi casualties has the number at less than half of what you quoted?


First of all, I never quoted an actual body count you stupid son of a bitch. I just said "400,000 troops plus Iraqi casualties". Therefore your point is not only irrelevant is stupid. What makes you think your sources of info are so much better than everyone else's?

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I stated that I have opinions that don't toe the party line (one being on how the war has been run). You glossed over that just to say that my opinions on education or big government didn't matter as a way to just make me the bad guy again. Ignore the fact that two of the examples I gave are directly tied to Iraq and the War on Terror (Gitmo and the overall running of the Iraq campaign). I made my opinions on this war rather clear in this very thread today. Just because you disagree with them, it doesn't mean that you're right.


No, dummy, I didn't say your opinion doesn't matter just the issues. All that other stuff isn't as important the Iraq issue.


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 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
Instead of conceding a point when backed into a corner I just pull shit out of my ass - which isn't easy considering how tightly everything's packed up there. I also find it hysterical how you morons have begun taking to the argument "you're just ignoring my points" since that's exactly what I've been doing the whole time.


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Instead of conceding a point when backed into a corner I just pull shit out of my ass - which isn't easy considering how tightly everything's packed up there. I also find it hysterical how you morons have begun taking to the argument "you're just ignoring my points" since that's exactly what I've been doing the whole time.




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First of all, I never quoted an actual body count you stupid son of a bitch. I just said "400,000 troops plus Iraqi casualties".

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First of all, I never quoted an actual body count you stupid son of a bitch. I just said "400,000 troops plus Iraqi casualties".

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First of all, I never quoted an actual body count you stupid son of a bitch. I just said "400,000 troops plus Iraqi casualties".

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First of all, I never quoted an actual body count you stupid son of a bitch. I just said "400,000 troops plus Iraqi casualties".

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First of all, I never quoted an actual body count you stupid son of a bitch. I just said "400,000 troops plus Iraqi casualties".

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You are so goddamn, fucking stupid. Did they not teach you to read in that inbred camp of carny folk you come from? Didn't you see where I said that the most scientific research into Iraqi casualties has the number at less than half of what you quoted?


First of all, I never quoted an actual body count you stupid son of a bitch. I just said "400,000 troops plus Iraqi casualties". Therefore your point is not only irrelevant is stupid. What makes you think your sources of info are so much better than everyone else's?


If you're not getting that number from somewhere, does that mean that you're admitting to making it up?

As I've said, the ones who're putting out the 400,000 number are using methods that are really just knocking on doors and asking people how many people have died. The numbers I've put out are made by confirmed deaths using Iraqi morgues and death certificates. Not 100% accurate, but more accurate than 400,000.

 Originally Posted By: Halo82
No, dummy, I didn't say your opinion doesn't matter just the issues. All that other stuff isn't as important the Iraq issue.


Odd. Most Americans believe that the economy is the most important issue in this election. Are you going to tell them that they're wrong? Once again, don't assert your opinion as fact or the end-all-be-all of every conversation.


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First of all, I never quoted an actual body count you stupid son of a bitch. I just said "400,000 troops plus Iraqi casualties".



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First of all, I never quoted an actual body count you stupid son of a bitch. I just said "400,000 troops plus Iraqi casualties".



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First of all, I never quoted an actual body count you stupid son of a bitch. I just said "400,000 troops plus Iraqi casualties".



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First of all, I never quoted an actual body count you stupid son of a bitch. I just said "400,000 troops plus Iraqi casualties".



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First of all, I never quoted an actual body count you stupid son of a bitch. I just said "400,000 troops plus Iraqi casualties".



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First of all, I never quoted an actual body count you stupid son of a bitch. I just said "400,000 troops plus Iraqi casualties".

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First of all, I never quoted an actual body count you stupid son of a bitch. I just said "400,000 troops plus Iraqi casualties".

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First of all, I never quoted an actual body count you stupid son of a bitch. I just said "400,000 troops plus Iraqi casualties".

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First of all, I never quoted an actual body count you stupid son of a bitch. I just said "400,000 troops plus Iraqi casualties".

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[quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=Halo82]
First of all, I never quoted an actual body count you stupid son of a bitch. I just said "400,000 troops plus Iraqi casualties".

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[quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=Halo82]
First of all, I never quoted an actual body count you stupid son of a bitch. I just said "400,000 troops plus Iraqi casualties".

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[quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=Halo82]
First of all, I never quoted an actual body count you stupid son of a bitch. I just said "400,000 troops plus Iraqi casualties".

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[quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=Halo82]
First of all, I never quoted an actual body count you stupid son of a bitch. I just said "400,000 troops plus Iraqi casualties".

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[quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=rex][quote=Halo82]
First of all, I never quoted an actual body count you stupid son of a bitch. I just said "400,000 troops plus Iraqi casualties".

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If you're not getting that number from somewhere, does that mean that you're admitting to making it up?

As I've said, the ones who're putting out the 400,000 number are using methods that are really just knocking on doors and asking people how many people have died. The numbers I've put out are made by confirmed deaths using Iraqi morgues and death certificates. Not 100% accurate, but more accurate than 400,000.


Wait a minute, now you're saying we don't how many troops have been lost? Cause the 400,000 number is for the troops. Understand? And if the Pentagon can't keep track of how many of our own troops have died than they are more useless than I thought.

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Odd. Most Americans believe that the economy is the most important issue in this election. Are you going to tell them that they're wrong? Once again, don't assert your opinion as fact or the end-all-be-all of every conversation.


Fuck yeah I will. It doesn't have to be fact for me to think other people are wrong. Once again your strawman argument is pathetic.


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 Originally Posted By: Halo82
It doesn't have to be fact for me to think other people are wrong.


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It doesn't have to be fact for me to think other people are wrong.


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It doesn't have to be fact for me to think other people are wrong.


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It doesn't have to be fact for me to think other people are wrong.


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 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Halo82
It doesn't have to be fact for me to think other people are wrong.


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 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Halo82
It doesn't have to be fact for me to think other people are wrong.


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 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Halo82
It doesn't have to be fact for me to think other people are wrong.


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 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Halo82
It doesn't have to be fact for me to think other people are wrong.


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 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
 Originally Posted By: Halo82
It doesn't have to be fact for me to think other people are wrong.


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