Originally Posted By: whomod
As for your terrorist camps found in Iraq, you're referring to the Ansar al-Islam guerrillas WHO HAD CAMPS IN THE NORTHERN NO-FLY ZONE under our control and clearly away from Sadaam Hussein's control.


No, I'm talking about camps like the one found in Salman Pak (about 20 miles south of Baghdad) that were being run by some in Saddam's own elite army corps. You know, the ones that Saddam's military claimed was for anti-terrorism training of their own soldiers when, in fact, most at the camp were terrorists from other nations being trained in such things as airplane hijackings.

 Originally Posted By: whomod
Of course not. All your excuses and rationalizations are just cop outs. You're going to cling to whatever shreds remain of the right wing talking points justifying this fiasco.


No, I've just felt that Saddam should have been taken out in the 90's, and the fact that Bush Sr. didn't do it or fully support the rebels to do so was a big failing of his administration.

 Originally Posted By: whomod
You sound just like Wonder Boy there. I disagree with Bush yadda yadda. Or it just sounds like every Republican currently running for re-election.

At least you're sensible about Guantanamo Bay. Did you you hear the one about how the judge in one of the trials was replaced because the case wasn't going the Administrations way?


I'm not a Republican. I do hold many conservative views, but a lot of them are due to different belief than those of the Republican party. We may believe in the same on the overall issue, but the reasoning for such is different. Honestly, I'd be happy if both the Democratic and Republican parties vanished from the political landscape. So your trying to brand me as rehashing talking points is bullshit. It's just a fact that contradicts what you want to believe and happens to be something touted by your opposition party.

whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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