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Yeah. Now if only Pizza Hutt starts using an ingredient that would make Fat Mama sterile... Yay, Sammitch has arrived to make this board look even dumber! You are the one who cant spell, so who is the real idiot here? Yeah, I make spelling mistakes every now and then and so I can't spell at all? Way to jump the shark, jerkoff. I didnt say "at all" jerkoff! Thats your words not mine. You read em how you want! Yeah, you did. You fucks don't even know what you say. You'd I "can't" spell. Comprende, estupido?
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Yeah. Now if only Pizza Hutt starts using an ingredient that would make Fat Mama sterile... Yay, Sammitch has arrived to make this board look even dumber! You are the one who cant spell, so who is the real idiot here? Yeah, I make spelling mistakes every now and then and so I can't spell at all? Way to jump the shark, jerkoff. I didnt say "at all" jerkoff! Thats your words not mine. You read em how you want! Yeah, you did. You fucks don't even know what you say. You'd [???] I "can't" spell. ¿Comprende, estupido?
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Yeah. Now if only Pizza Hutt starts using an ingredient that would make Fat Mama sterile... Yay, Sammitch has arrived to make this board look even dumber! You are the one who cant spell, so who is the real idiot here? Yeah, I make spelling mistakes every now and then and so I can't spell at all? Way to jump the shark, jerkoff. I didnt say "at all" jerkoff! Thats your words not mine. You read em how you want! Yeah, you did. You fucks don't even know what you say. You'd I "can't" spell. Comprende, estupido? I said cant spell, not cant spell at all.....learn to read! If you could not spell at all, that would be basically saying you could not write words at all, which is obviously not true! Now who is being pedantic?
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Yeah. Now if only Pizza Hutt starts using an ingredient that would make Fat Mama sterile... Yay, Sammitch has arrived to make this board look even dumber! You are the one who cant spell, so who is the real idiot here? Yeah, I make spelling mistakes every now and then and so I can't spell at all? Way to jump the shark, jerkoff. I didnt say "at all" jerkoff! Thats your words not mine. You read em how you want! Yeah, you did. You fucks don't even know what you say. You'd I "can't" spell. Comprende, estupido? I said cant spell, not cant spell at all.....learn to read! If you could not spell at all, that would be basically saying you could not write words at all, which is obviously not true! Now who is being pedantic? "Can't" means you can't do it period. Saying "at all" is unnecessary verbal garbage. These are your words retard, not mine.
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oh, i thought that's where this forum was stuck. what with pointing out typos, still using 'tard' and asking ppl to cyber. Yeah, because your message board is so far above calling people retards now isnt it. And for the record, typos only got pointed out when Halo decided that grammar was something worth mocking someone for, even though his grammar and spelling are less than sterling. Still don't get it, do you retard? I was mocking BSAMS for not being able to use a keyboard, not spelling. Comprende, asshole? And Sammitch was shallow and pestering me about spelling before I became Rob's Borg enemy #1. And what is not being able to type words properly, and making typos all the time if its not being able to use a keyboard properly? Not figuring out how to hit the shift button you jerkwad. So let me get this straight, making typos all the time is not being able to hit the shift key? Yet it was you saying bsams should use the shift key!
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oh, i thought that's where this forum was stuck. what with pointing out typos, still using 'tard' and asking ppl to cyber. Yeah, because your message board is so far above calling people retards now isnt it. And for the record, typos only got pointed out when Halo decided that grammar was something worth mocking someone for, even though his grammar and spelling are less than sterling. Still don't get it, do you retard? I was mocking BSAMS for not being able to use a keyboard, not spelling. Comprende, asshole? And Sammitch was shallow and pestering me about spelling before I became Rob's Borg enemy #1. And what is not being able to type words properly, and making typos all the time if its not being able to use a keyboard properly? Not figuring out how to hit the shift button you jerkwad. So let me get this straight, making typos all the time is not being able to hit the shift key? Yet it was you saying bsams should use the shift key! Who the fuck is talking about typos? BSAMS was nitpicking little shit so I said he could't capitalize cause he couldn't work the shift key.
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oh, i thought that's where this forum was stuck. what with pointing out typos, still using 'tard' and asking ppl to cyber. Yeah, because your message board is so far above calling people retards now isnt it. And for the record, typos only got pointed out when Halo decided that grammar was something worth mocking someone for, even though his grammar and spelling are less than sterling. Still don't get it, do you retard? I was mocking BSAMS for not being able to use a keyboard, not spelling. Comprende, asshole? And Sammitch was shallow and pestering me about spelling before I became Rob's Borg enemy #1. And what is not being able to type words properly, and making typos all the time if its not being able to use a keyboard properly? Not figuring out how to hit the shift button you jerkwad. So let me get this straight, making typos all the time is not being able to hit the shift key? Yet it was you saying bsams should use the shift key! Who the fuck is talking about typos? BSAMS was [being a] nitpicking little shit , so I said he could n't capitalize because he couldn't work the shift key.
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Yeah. Now if only Pizza Hutt starts using an ingredient that would make Fat Mama sterile... Yay, Sammitch has arrived to make this board look even dumber! You are the one who cant spell, so who is the real idiot here? Yeah, I make spelling mistakes every now and then and so I can't spell at all? Way to jump the shark, jerkoff. I didnt say "at all" jerkoff! Thats your words not mine. You read em how you want! Yeah, you did. You fucks don't even know what you say. You'd I "can't" spell. Comprende, estupido? "Can't" means you can't do it period. Saying "at all" is unnecessary verbal garbage. These are your words retard, not mine. I said cant spell, not cant spell at all.....learn to read! If you could not spell at all, that would be basically saying you could not write words at all, which is obviously not true! Now who is being pedantic? No, cannot does not mean you cannot do something, period. It means you cannot necessarily do something completely. IE: I cannot complete this task. It does not mean you have not done some of the task, it means you cannot do some of the task. Thus, saying you cannot spell, means you cannot spell some things! And if "at all" is unnecessary verbal (is it verbal when its typed?) garbage, why did you feel the necessity to type it? Because you were being pedantic, and tried to do what you "claim" everyone else does, and put words into someone elses mouth!
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oh, i thought that's where this forum was stuck. what with pointing out typos, still using 'tard' and asking ppl to cyber. Yeah, because your message board is so far above calling people retards now isnt it. And for the record, typos only got pointed out when Halo decided that grammar was something worth mocking someone for, even though his grammar and spelling are less than sterling. Still don't get it, do you retard? I was mocking BSAMS for not being able to use a keyboard, not spelling. Comprende, asshole? And Sammitch was shallow and pestering me about spelling before I became Rob's Borg enemy #1. And what is not being able to type words properly, and making typos all the time if its not being able to use a keyboard properly? Not figuring out how to hit the shift button you jerkwad. So let me get this straight, making typos all the time is not being able to hit the shift key? Yet it was you saying bsams should use the shift key! Who the fuck is talking about typos? BSAMS was nitpicking little shit so I said he could't capitalize cause he couldn't work the shift key. I asked you a question, and you replied. Please relate your answer to the question at hand, then people would understand you better. I was asking about your typo mistakes, and you replied that they were because you cannot use the shift key properly!
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Yeah. Now if only Pizza Hutt starts using an ingredient that would make Fat Mama sterile... Yay, Sammitch has arrived to make this board look even dumber! You are the one who cant spell, so who is the real idiot here? Yeah, I make spelling mistakes every now and then and so I can't spell at all? Way to jump the shark, jerkoff. I didnt say "at all" jerkoff! Thats your words not mine. You read em how you want! Yeah, you did. You fucks don't even know what you say. You'd I "can't" spell. Comprende, estupido? "Can't" means you can't do it period. Saying "at all" is unnecessary verbal garbage. These are your words retard, not mine. I said cant spell, not cant spell at all.....learn to read! If you could not spell at all, that would be basically saying you could not write words at all, which is obviously not true! Now who is being pedantic? No, cannot does not mean you cannot do something, period. It means you cannot necessarily do something completely. IE: I cannot complete this task. It does not mean you have not done some of the task, it means you cannot do some of the task. Thus, saying you cannot spell, means you cannot spell some things! And if "at all" is unnecessary verbal (is it verbal when its typed?) garbage, why did you feel the necessity to type it? Because you were being pedantic, and tried to do what you "claim" everyone else does, and put words into someone elses mouth! No stupid. Can't means incapable of. Like a blind man can't see.
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oh, i thought that's where this forum was stuck. what with pointing out typos, still using 'tard' and asking ppl to cyber. Yeah, because your message board is so far above calling people retards now isnt it. And for the record, typos only got pointed out when Halo decided that grammar was something worth mocking someone for, even though his grammar and spelling are less than sterling. Still don't get it, do you retard? I was mocking BSAMS for not being able to use a keyboard, not spelling. Comprende, asshole? And Sammitch was shallow and pestering me about spelling before I became Rob's Borg enemy #1. And what is not being able to type words properly, and making typos all the time if its not being able to use a keyboard properly? Not figuring out how to hit the shift button you jerkwad. So let me get this straight, making typos all the time is not being able to hit the shift key? Yet it was you saying bsams should use the shift key! Who the fuck is talking about typos? BSAMS was nitpicking little shit so I said he could't capitalize cause he couldn't work the shift key. I asked you a question, and you replied. Please relate your answer to the question at hand, then people would understand you better. I was asking about your typo mistakes, and you replied that they were because you cannot use the shift key properly! Hello, Houston to Major Moron. Still don't get it, do you retard? I was mocking BSAMS for not being able to use a keyboard, not spelling. Comprende, asshole? And Sammitch was shallow and pestering me about spelling before I became Rob's Borg enemy #1. Where the fuck do I ever talk about about his typos? I was never making a big deal out of spelling.
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raid? sorry but some functioning mental retard named capt sammich INVITED me here. honestly, there's nothing here to raid. i mean, how can one compete with 'PENIS PENIS PENIS' & 'WE WIN!!'? that's like the fucking shakespeare of the internet. So I have Sammitch to thank for our future wedding? Maybe he should be the best man instead of Bsams. you little fucking prick! you wouldnt even know there was a Twisted Sister "Love is for Suckers" album if it wasnt for me! Alright fine, Sammitch can be the flower girl.
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Watching the li'l puppy chasing his tail makes me Your shoe collection is kinda girly, Halotard.
Uschi said:I won't rape you, I'll just fuck you 'till it hurts and then not stop and you'll cry. MisterJLA: RACKS so hard, he called Jim Rome "Chris Everett." In Him, all porn is possible. He is far above mentions in so-called "blogs." RACK him, lest ye be lost! "I can't even brush my teeth without gagging!" - Tommy Tantillo: Wank & Cry, heckpuppy, and general laughingstock
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Watching the li'l puppy chasing his tail makes me Your shoe collection is kinda girly, Halotard. Maybe you and the rest of the Fab Five can come over and help me with my fashion sense?
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Watching the li'l puppy chasing his tail makes me Your shoe collection is kinda girly, Halotard. Maybe you and the rest of the Fab Five can come over and help me with my fashion sense? Anything to get me and some gay guys in your house, eh? That was the saddest attempt yet.
Uschi said:I won't rape you, I'll just fuck you 'till it hurts and then not stop and you'll cry. MisterJLA: RACKS so hard, he called Jim Rome "Chris Everett." In Him, all porn is possible. He is far above mentions in so-called "blogs." RACK him, lest ye be lost! "I can't even brush my teeth without gagging!" - Tommy Tantillo: Wank & Cry, heckpuppy, and general laughingstock
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Watching the li'l puppy chasing his tail makes me Your shoe collection is kinda girly, Halotard. Maybe you and the rest of the Fab Five can come over and help me with my fashion sense? Anything to get me and some other gay guys in your house, eh? That was the saddest attempt yet. Fixed it for you. And what makes you assume everyone who comes to my house comes over for sex? Are you that desperate to believe I want you as much as you want me? Dude, seriously, you are a closet case. I'm sure there are plenty of gay guys in Boston who would pay you for a blow job or to ass ram you. Express yourself!
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Watching the li'l puppy chasing his tail makes me Your shoe collection is kinda girly, Halotard. Maybe you and the rest of the Fab Five can come over and help me with my fashion sense? Anything to get me and some gay guys in your house, eh? That was the saddest attempt yet.  And what makes you assume everyone who comes to my house comes over for sex? I mean, aside from my love declarations for Sikkbones, the Navy, and whomod. Are you that insensitive to ignore how badly I want you to want me? Dude, seriously, I don't want to be a closet case anymore. I'm sure there are plenty of gay guys in Boston who would pay for a blow job or to ass ram me. Do you know anyone??? Sorry, no. Try Craigslist or one of the websites for singles. You'll find someone...besides Beardguy, whomod, or Sikkbones.
Uschi said:I won't rape you, I'll just fuck you 'till it hurts and then not stop and you'll cry. MisterJLA: RACKS so hard, he called Jim Rome "Chris Everett." In Him, all porn is possible. He is far above mentions in so-called "blogs." RACK him, lest ye be lost! "I can't even brush my teeth without gagging!" - Tommy Tantillo: Wank & Cry, heckpuppy, and general laughingstock
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honestly, there's nothing here to raid. i mean, how can one compete with 'PENIS PENIS PENIS' & 'WE WIN!!'? that's like the fucking shakespeare of the internet. I know! Right?
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Watching the li'l puppy chasing his tail makes me Your shoe collection is kinda girly, Halotard. Maybe you and the rest of the Fab Five can come over and help me with my fashion sense? Anything to get me and some gay guys in your house, eh? That was the saddest attempt yet.
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honestly, there's nothing here to raid. i mean, how can one compete with 'PENIS PENIS PENIS' & 'WE WIN!!'? that's like the fucking shakespeare of the internet. I know! Right? That's the most honest observation I've ever read on ths message board.
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If you've had enough and thought enough about Rob Kamphausen and his Legion message board, please stop reading now.
I apologize in advance. This posting vents a bit, from anger that still resides in the depths, despite my best efforts over three weeks. It also documents a still-twitching nerve fiber of that venue, in the nature of an autopsy.
I was fighting insomnia tonight, by doing some computer cleanup, when I ran across Steve Lightle's heartfelt plea for Legion-fan cohesion (posted elsewhere, including the DCMBs, as "The Legion Family") in my all-remembering ClipMate clipboard utility. And it occurred to me that I had read about his having posted it on Rob's Legion HQ.
With all that had transpired, I was morbidly curious as to the reaction over there. Emphasis on morbid, because that forum is dead, despite its still having a few intelligent people -- some from here -- inexplicably still posting amid the ruins occasionally.
I was dismayed, but not surprised, to see Rob himself posting tonight in that thread, freely admitting that it was after he'd been drinking for three hours.
He Who Wanders had been kind enough to mention me earlier in the thread, by name, and note that on the DCMBs (blue version) he and I had disagreed on the importance of tact. I took HWW to heart, and decided to not post a response to Rob on his own private property.
So I did what I'd neglected to do earlier: I removed all personal information from my user profile, turned off the Dawnstar avatar, and left only the URL "www.legionworld.net" as my custom title. I didn't want anything of a personal nature on that system, except an endorsement of this one. (And my written words up to then.) I came back here to post.
Rob delivered a rant about being an injured, generous innocent that had to be seen to be believed. Yet I won't dissect all of that. I'll confine myself to this:
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{After setting up "Legion HQ"} we hadda buncha crazy yet happy legion fans doing and saying whutever the heck they wanted in a forum completely free and random, just like they asked for.
then, in the span of just a few hours, when i was out doing my "real world" thing, many of these happy people realized exactly what "free and random" means.
see, as a moderator for half a decade now, i'll letcha in on a lil secret: seems almost no one wants freedom of speech. what people want is freedom of -their- speech. its a distinct and clear difference, but not one many will accept or admit.
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We Legion fans asked for nothing "free and random." And what Rob Kamphausen will not accept or admit is that he is not merely a grammatical ignoramus, as this and other postings have shown. He is also, as this shows, a historical and a logical one.
"Freedom of speech" belongs, and it always has belonged, to the realm of politics. It has to do with -government- action, with its being prevented from trampling on one's natural and (per Jefferson) inalienable rights. It has nothing to do with private actions.
Rob controls his property -- as much as he wants to do so. Or not. What he allows on his message boards is not a matter of "freedom." It is a matter of what he prefers. And he prefers to -not have discussion forums,- when his cronies feel like trashing them.
That, quite simply, is the crux of what went wrong. Rob misled us into thinking that the Legion HQ (or his boards, more generally, earlier) would be a place for discussion. Wild and woolly and astoundingly off-topic at times, but nonetheless discussion.
He didn't want that. He wanted something "random," with no constraints whatsoever on anything that might disrupt rational expression.
That is what he was never forthright about, until the trashing of Legion HQ and the mass departure. He was, and is, footing the bill for that venue, but that gives him no moral right to posture as the injured and generous benefactor, when his actions were a matter of deception, however partly passive.
I know this has been chewed upon endlessly already, yet I never got to the heart of it in my own mind until now. I had to put it on record.
Some of you are going to say, "Grey, get a life and forget about it all." And you're right, I should. Yet we should also grieve for being deprived of any place to speak one's mind, where it can fire on all cylinders. This is how I'm doing it. And I've said enough.
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I have an abacus I could sent you but you'd probably just accidentally choke yourself with it. That's my favorite. Still is.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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shut up you grammatical ignoramus!
big_pimp_tim-made it cool to roll in the first damn place! Mon Jun 11 2007 09:27 PM- harley finally rolled with me "I'm working with him...he's young but, there is much potential. He can apprentice with me and then he's yours for final training. He will remember the face of his father... Some day, Knutreturns just may be the greatest of us all...."-THE bastard
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you render my smilies when you quote me!!!!
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If you've had enough and thought enough about Rob Kamphausen and his Legion message board, please stop reading now.
I apologize in advance. This posting vents a bit, from anger that still resides in the depths, despite my best efforts over three weeks. It also documents a still-twitching nerve fiber of that venue, in the nature of an autopsy.
I was fighting insomnia tonight, by doing some computer cleanup, when I ran across Steve Lightle's heartfelt plea for Legion-fan cohesion (posted elsewhere, including the DCMBs, as "The Legion Family") in my all-remembering ClipMate clipboard utility. And it occurred to me that I had read about his having posted it on Rob's Legion HQ.
With all that had transpired, I was morbidly curious as to the reaction over there. Emphasis on morbid, because that forum is dead, despite its still having a few intelligent people -- some from here -- inexplicably still posting amid the ruins occasionally.
I was dismayed, but not surprised, to see Rob himself posting tonight in that thread, freely admitting that it was after he'd been drinking for three hours.
He Who Wanders had been kind enough to mention me earlier in the thread, by name, and note that on the DCMBs (blue version) he and I had disagreed on the importance of tact. I took HWW to heart, and decided to not post a response to Rob on his own private property.
So I did what I'd neglected to do earlier: I removed all personal information from my user profile, turned off the Dawnstar avatar, and left only the URL "www.legionworld.net" as my custom title. I didn't want anything of a personal nature on that system, except an endorsement of this one. (And my written words up to then.) I came back here to post.
Rob delivered a rant about being an injured, generous innocent that had to be seen to be believed. Yet I won't dissect all of that. I'll confine myself to this:
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{After setting up "Legion HQ"} we hadda buncha crazy yet happy legion fans doing and saying whutever the heck they wanted in a forum completely free and random, just like they asked for.
then, in the span of just a few hours, when i was out doing my "real world" thing, many of these happy people realized exactly what "free and random" means.
see, as a moderator for half a decade now, i'll letcha in on a lil secret: seems almost no one wants freedom of speech. what people want is freedom of -their- speech. its a distinct and clear difference, but not one many will accept or admit.
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We Legion fans asked for nothing "free and random." And what Rob Kamphausen will not accept or admit is that he is not merely a grammatical ignoramus, as this and other postings have shown. He is also, as this shows, a historical and a logical one.
"Freedom of speech" belongs, and it always has belonged, to the realm of politics. It has to do with -government- action, with its being prevented from trampling on one's natural and (per Jefferson) inalienable rights. It has nothing to do with private actions.
Rob controls his property -- as much as he wants to do so. Or not. What he allows on his message boards is not a matter of "freedom." It is a matter of what he prefers. And he prefers to -not have discussion forums,- when his cronies feel like trashing them.
That, quite simply, is the crux of what went wrong. Rob misled us into thinking that the Legion HQ (or his boards, more generally, earlier) would be a place for discussion. Wild and woolly and astoundingly off-topic at times, but nonetheless discussion.
He didn't want that. He wanted something "random," with no constraints whatsoever on anything that might disrupt rational expression.
That is what he was never forthright about, until the trashing of Legion HQ and the mass departure. He was, and is, footing the bill for that venue, but that gives him no moral right to posture as the injured and generous benefactor, when his actions were a matter of deception, however partly passive.
I know this has been chewed upon endlessly already, yet I never got to the heart of it in my own mind until now. I had to put it on record.
Some of you are going to say, "Grey, get a life and forget about it all." And you're right, I should. Yet we should also grieve for being deprived of any place to speak one's mind, where it can fire on all cylinders. This is how I'm doing it. And I've said enough. You know, I haven't read that in a very long time, and it still sounds as spineless today as it did back then.
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DAVE YOU ARE A NAZI REPUBLICAN WHO BELIEVES IN STALIN AND GEORGE BUSH!!!!!!
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that's why he fits in here so well...
 Dear, sweet Harley Kwink...I'm madly in love with you. Marry me! We can go to Canadia. Or Boston or something. It'll be grand...You know the cookies are a given. They are ALWAYS a given. You could dump me tomorrow and you'd still get the cookies. Boston..shit, wherever dyke weddings were legalized. And where better to rub their little piggie noses in how bad they suck than right on their doorstep? What are they gonna do? Be jealous of you? Stare furiously at your tah-tahs? Not willingly give you cookies, but instead begrudgingly give you their cookies? Woman, time to wake up to the powers you wield - Uschi
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ROB STOP YELLING YOU'RE HURTING MY EARS!!!!
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