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I thought about that when Whomod brought up the 50 state stratagy. The party kept two important swing states effectively shut out of a close nomination race. It's resulted in a tainted nomination. I wonder how damaging this ends up being in the general?
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I thought about that when Whomod brought up the 50 state stratagy. The party kept two important swing states effectively shut out of a close nomination race. It's resulted in a tainted nomination. I wonder how damaging this ends up being in the general? How did it do that MEM? Both states broke the rules. Both states were heard and both states received resolution. A part of me honestly wants Obama to pressure the DNC to seat the delegates 100% just so Hillary supporters would stop grasping at straws already. Even if he does that, IT DOESN'T MATTER. Obama is too far ahead of her anyways. But the larger point is that they broke the rules and if no repercussions come from it, it'll only encourage other states to do likewise.
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I thought about that when Whomod brought up the 50 state stratagy. The party kept two important swing states effectively shut out of a close nomination race. It's resulted in a tainted nomination. I wonder how damaging this ends up being in the general? How did it do that MEM. Both states broke the rules. Both states were hard and both states received resolution. A part of me honestly wants Obama to pressure the DNC to seat the delegates 100% just so Hillary supporters would stop grasping at straws already. Even if he does that, IT DOESN'T MATTER. Obama is too far ahead of her anyways. But the larger point is that they broke the rules and if no repercussions come from it, it'll only encourage other states to do likewise. It's a given Obama will seat the delegations at 100% now that it isn't a threat to his nomination. As for tainting the nomination, two big states didn't have a say in a close race. By cutting them out it ended up helping one candidate over the other. By punishing the voters who were not at fault, well you can talk about rules & feel good about them since it gave you the desired results, whatever but it's not going to make it OK for the Hillary supporter in Michigan who voted for who they wanted to in an official state primary & then have it erased to help the guy who removed his name off the ballot on purpose.
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How did it do that MEM.
Both states broke the rules. Both states were hard and both states received resolution.
A part of me honestly wants Obama to pressure the DNC to seat the delegates 100% just so Hillary supporters would stop grasping at straws already. Even if he does that, IT DOESN'T MATTER. Obama is too far ahead of her anyways.
But the larger point is that they broke the rules and if no repercussions come from it, it'll only encourage other states to do likewise.
It's a given Obama will seat the delegations at 100% now that it isn't a threat to his nomination. As for tainting the nomination, two big states didn't have a say in a close race. By cutting them out it ended up helping one candidate over the other. Only in Hillary's twisted mathematics. Come back to reality MEM. It's ok. Most of the analysts were including Michigan and Florida in their scenarios for a theoretical Hillary win and they were all saying that it didn't matter. This race was lost a long time ago and if anything, the media and the DNC + the supers in not deciding helped delude Hillary and her supporters and let them continue on when they should have by all rights dropped out on account of there being no path to victory.. Plus are you suggesting it was Obama who had the power to not seat the delegates? By punishing the voters who were not at fault, well you can talk about rules & feel good about them since it gave you the desired results, whatever but it's not going to make it OK for the Hillary supporter in Michigan who voted for who they wanted to in an official state primary & then have it erased to help the guy who removed his name off the ballot on purpose. Michigan itself came out with the ratio to split the delegates. Not the DNC and not Obama. So take it up with Michigan. 
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you got to love democracy with an asterisks.... Count every vote is so last millenium! It's such a basic principle so quickly dumped when it didn't favor Obama. I have to wonder if I would feel differently if not counting votes had favored my candidate? I would like to think it wouldn't but to see so many fellow democrats feel good about changing the rules & not counting votes, I'm not so sure.
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you got to love democracy with an asterisks.... Count every vote is so last millenium! It's such a basic principle so quickly dumped when it didn't favor Obama. I have to wonder if I would feel differently if not counting votes had favored my candidate? I would like to think it wouldn't but to see so many fellow democrats feel good about changing the rules & not counting votes, I'm not so sure.  so how'd those Caucus states go in Hillary's equations, MEM?
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How did it do that MEM.
Both states broke the rules. Both states were hard and both states received resolution.
A part of me honestly wants Obama to pressure the DNC to seat the delegates 100% just so Hillary supporters would stop grasping at straws already. Even if he does that, IT DOESN'T MATTER. Obama is too far ahead of her anyways.
But the larger point is that they broke the rules and if no repercussions come from it, it'll only encourage other states to do likewise.
It's a given Obama will seat the delegations at 100% now that it isn't a threat to his nomination. As for tainting the nomination, two big states didn't have a say in a close race. By cutting them out it ended up helping one candidate over the other. Only in Hillary's twisted mathematics. Come back to reality MEM. It's ok. Most of the analysts were including Michigan and Florida in their scenarios for a theoretical Hillary win and they were all saying that it didn't matter. This race was lost a long time ago and if anything, the media and the DNC + the supers in not deciding helped delude Hillary and her supporters and let them continue on when they should have by all rights dropped out on account of there being no path to victory.. ... If those state's primaries had been in play it could have dramatically changed how the process played out. Florida would have certainly been another big state win for Hillary that would have given her a boost early on when it mattered most. By punishing the voters who were not at fault, well you can talk about rules & feel good about them since it gave you the desired results, whatever but it's not going to make it OK for the Hillary supporter in Michigan who voted for who they wanted to in an official state primary & then have it erased to help the guy who removed his name off the ballot on purpose. Michigan itself came out with the ratio to split the delegates. Not the DNC and not Obama. So take it up with Michigan. ... [/quote] No, some people from Michigan came up with that plan. You can pretend that everyone in the state liked the idea but that doesn't help Obama in a general where he doesn't get to take his name off the ballot & then have his party assign delegates to him later.
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you got to love democracy with an asterisks.... Count every vote is so last millenium! It's such a basic principle so quickly dumped when it didn't favor Obama. I have to wonder if I would feel differently if not counting votes had favored my candidate? I would like to think it wouldn't but to see so many fellow democrats feel good about changing the rules & not counting votes, I'm not so sure. so how'd those Caucus states go in Hillary's equations, MEM? Did those caucus states have popular vote totals to count? Did Obama count them?
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you got to love democracy with an asterisks.... Count every vote is so last millenium! It's such a basic principle so quickly dumped when it didn't favor Obama. I have to wonder if I would feel differently if not counting votes had favored my candidate? I would like to think it wouldn't but to see so many fellow democrats feel good about changing the rules & not counting votes, I'm not so sure. so how'd those Caucus states go in Hillary's equations, MEM? Did those caucus states have popular vote totals to count? Did Obama count them? do not question Lord Hussein!
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you got to love democracy with an asterisks.... ...almost as much as Freedom of Speech with an asterisk.
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Thats a question he should be asking himself in every thread!
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Ah MEM.. your girl, Hill. The more we learn of her campaign, the more warm and fuzzy I feel that she lost. Divide and conquer, eh? I swear the Clinton's reputation among Dems is now mud. Andrews says he heard racist strategy from Clinton campby Josh Margolin/The Star-Ledger Friday June 06, 2008, 12:05 AM  Rep. Rob Andrews A Democratic superdelegate from New Jersey said this week he is worried that unifying the party behind Barack Obama may be difficult because the Clinton camp "has engaged in some very divisive tactics and rhetoric it should not have."
U.S. Rep. Rob Andrews, who supported Hillary Clinton throughout the primary season, disclosed he received a phone call shortly before the April 22 Pennsylvania primary from a top member of Clinton's organization and that the caller explicitly discussed a strategy of winning over Jewish voters by exploiting tensions between Jews and African-Americans.
"There have been signals coming out of the Clinton campaign that have racial overtones that indeed disturb me," Andrews said at his campaign headquarters in Cherry Hill Tuesday night after he lost his bid for the Democratic U.S. Senate nomination.
"Frankly, I had a private conversation with a high-ranking person in the campaign ... that used a racial line of argument that I found very disconcerting. It was extremely disconcerting given the rank of this person. It was very disturbing."
Andrews said the phone call came after he angered the Clinton camp by making some positive comments about Obama. He would not disclose the caller's name because of the private nature of the conversation. ...
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Speaking of reputation, you're a pansy who calls the cops on people for making alt ids of people they never even met.
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Clintons reputation is now mud with the Dems? she got over half the votes from Dems. whomod has really snapped this time.
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Ah MEM.. your girl, Hill.
The more we learn of her campaign, the more warm and fuzzy I feel that she lost.
Divide and conquer, eh? I swear the Clinton's reputation among Dems is now mud.
... I doubt it. Andrews couldn't have been more vague in his accusations. Won't say who he talked to or what was said in the conversation.
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still he's a politician, he must be telling the truth. what possible ulterior motive could he have?
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So now we'll have two or three months of you pimping her for VP regardless of any evidence to the contrary, eh?
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The NYT: As the Obama bandwagon has swelled, so have the lists of people Clinton loyalists regard as some variation of “ingrate,” “traitor” or “enemy,” according to the associates and campaign officials, who would speak only on condition of anonymity.
Philippe Reines, a spokesman for both Clintons, said neither kept any specific catalog of those believed to have wronged them. “There is no list,” Mr. Reines said.
The lists maintained by supporters tend to be less formal documents than spoken diatribes, with offenders’ names spat forth in rants, gripe sessions and post-mortems.
Several names and entities are common among various list makers. The lineup invariably begins with A-list members like Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico; Representative James E. Clyburn of South Carolina, the House Democratic whip; Gregory B. Craig, Mr. Clinton’s lawyer in his impeachment and trial; David Axelrod, Mr. Obama’s chief strategist; Senator Claire McCaskill of Missouri; and several Kennedys. Some members of the Democratic Party’s rules committee, the state of Iowa and the caucus system in general are also near the top.
The news media have already focused on some list entries, including the online gossip purveyor Matt Drudge (who had the nerve to show up at Mrs. Clinton’s departure speech on Saturday), Todd S. Purdum of Vanity Fair (the author of a recent profile of Mr. Clinton) and the cable network MSNBC (whose hosts Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann are charter list members, Clinton associates said)....
These are people who should know better than to ask the former president or first lady for a job recommendation for a son-in-law....
While Mrs. Clinton has a short list of people who disappointed her, Mr. Clinton, who reportedly has an encyclopedic memory of all the people he has helped, employed or appointed over the years, apparently has a far longer one, the campaign officials said.  The entire state of Iowa??! The sooner these petty spiteful people fade into the sunset, the better off the Democratic Party will be.
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